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Chevrolet Equinox, SUV
Jul 16, 2013 (12:19 pm)
so I just brought my 2010 Equinox 4cylinder 2 months ago, I read the rating for the car on this website wish I would have read the problems. anyway about a month into having the car it started stalling and turning off and the check engine light came on once, I first took it to autozone for them to give me the code for the check engine light which turned out to be a P0011 code something about camshaft and timing anyway I took it to the dealership I purchased it from and they wanted me to pay $50 for them to put on a machine anyway after making a fuss the $50 was waived and they told me to take it to chevy because of this 100k warranty (I'm at 73,000 Miles) anyway I dropped the car off yesterday only to check on the status today to be told that its the timing chain and it is on a NATIONAL BACK ORDER so then he tells me that I could come pick the car up and drive it until the part comes in. Now at first I was like oh ok but then I started thinking NATIONAL BACK ORDER oh no that doesnt sound right so I started googling and the things that I have read so far has me really concerned I guess I need to look into what I can do to get out of this car because I can not afford to be stuck with a car with so many isssues after my warranty is up. I just think its awful for them to know something is wrong with the 2010 and 2011 issues and their not willing to do anything like maybe extend the warranty or something I was so excited about this car guess if I cant get out of it I'll be stuck but its just sad my first car note in six years and looks like I may have picked the wrong one such a shame!
#2087 of 2350 Re: so scared right now [breaneensam]
Jul 16, 2013 (2:41 pm)
Welcome to the club. Mine started with a broken timing chain, metal shavings in the oil, then to the stalling that would not give a code. They wanted me to drive it after 3 stalling incidents with a monitor on it..I was terrified to do so so I got rid of it. The dealership said they would not be reselling it. That pretty much says it all. They would not admit to any liability, or issues with that particular car, but if you research his site and some others, you will see that is not true. Get out of it if you can.
#2088 of 2350 GM Warranty & Extended Warranties!
Jul 17, 2013 (7:01 am)
If you have a new vehicle that is under the "new vehicle warranty" and / or "an extended GM warranty" it is VERY smart to have a GM dealer do all of your drive train service. ------ If something happens all of your vehicle records are in one location. (End of discussion with GM!)
I change my engine oil and filter every 2,500 miles, and I use a fuel additive at every fill up. (MY CHOICE!) ----- When it comes time for an "oil and filter change," I make an appointment with the selling dealer for 7:45AM in the morning. I present my vehicle for service. I walk to a local breakfast shop, enjoy a nice breakfast, and I get my vehicle back by 9:00AM.
I do not have any issues because they are using a GM oil filter, and the correct engine oil. If a problem occurs it is NOT my issue. It is a GM / Dealer Issue! ---- In addition to oil and filter service, I also have the dealer do all the other service such as brakes and tires. No one other than a GM dealer services my vehicle. They know that I am their customer, and they "go out of their way" to give me OUTSTANDING service. I appreciate their efforts.
QUESTIONS: ----- How much money are you saving by doing your own oil & filter service? ----- If you take you vehicle to the "fast lube shops," how do you know the "skill of the service people?" ----- I have read horror stories about these places. ---- I would stay with the dealer for service.
Just my opinion. ------------- Dwayne
#2089 of 2350 Re: GM Warranty & Extended Warranties! $$$$$$
Jul 17, 2013 (1:44 pm)
I agree brother...I can not understand why anyone would invest in a new vehical and change thier own oil or use Brand X Car Service! You might save $10.00 each visit while creating potentail GM Warranty issues. I have managed large commercial fleets and preventive maintenience is key to avoiding drive line issues and premature mechanical failure. New GM Owners should value and respect your opinion Dwayne!
#2090 of 2350 Re: GM Warranty & Extended Warranties! [djm2]
Jul 17, 2013 (3:04 pm)
When you live in a rural area, that can be quite a feat.
#2091 of 2350 Re: so scared right now [missmo1951]
Jul 18, 2013 (5:04 am)
thank you I hate that I have to be on here, on top of the timing chain the camshaft something is faulty too anyway with all of that they advised me to continue to drive the car until the timing chain comes in and then they'll replace both parts. I tried going to the dealer that I bought it from and there talking $3,000 negative equity added on so with that I wouldnt even be able to afford much more as far as monthly payments I was trying to stay under the $20 thousand mark but with this negative equity it looks like I'm screwed unless I just take a $100 dollar hit more a month ugh so frustrated!
#2092 of 2350 Re: GM Warranty & Extended Warranties!
Jul 18, 2013 (5:23 am)
Paying for repairs not covered by GM 100k Warrenty is quite a feat! Its like everything else in life you make it happen; its your responsibility not the dealers. If you do not take care of your dental matters your teeth fall out; If you do not paint and maintain your home you have water intrusion and wood decay Etc. Same with maintaining a new or used vehical, have the right service performed on a schedule and you will avoid many issues and insure your warranty is solid!
#2093 of 2350 Re: GM Warranty & Extended Warranties! [nox123]
Jul 18, 2013 (6:55 am)
Having service performed on schedule will NOT prevent failures due to design and manufacturing flaws. And the2.4L engine failures are from those flaws, not from lack of maintenance. It's unhelpful for people here to declare that every person's failures are from lack of maintenance. It's just not true in a lot of cases.
#2094 of 2350 Re: GM Warranty & Extended Warranties! $$$$$$ [nox123]
Jul 18, 2013 (7:20 am)
Thank you for your vote of confidence! (I grew up in an automotive / tool making environment as a child, and before I was out of the 8th grade I could tune up an engine, assemble an engine, and perform general automotive service on the vehicle.)
If you live that far from a GM dealership, you have three possible choices with regards to oil & filter service.
1.) Purchase a supply of GM oil filters for your vehicle from a GM dealer. Purchase a couple of cases of GM quart bottles of oil from the GM dealer for your vehicle. ------- (I am sure they will give you a discount on this large purchase!) KEEP ALL OF YOUR RECEIPTS! ------ Change your own oil and filter! ------ (KEEP A SERVICE RECORD / DATES & MILEAGE!)
2.) If you do not have the skill to perform this service for yourself, find a local service station that YOU TRUST, and bring the above supplies to the mechanic to have the service performed. ------ (YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY A SERVICE CHARGE FOR THIS SERVICE!) ------ When he / she writes the service bill make sure that your GM parts and oil are listed on the "service bill" along with the date, mileage and vehicle VIN number. ------- (KEEP ALL OF YOUR "SUPPLY" AND "SERVICE RECEIPTS." ------- MAKE TWO COPIES OF THESE RECEIPTS. KEEP THE ORIGINALS AT HOME AND COPIES IN THE VEHICLE.)
3.) When your vehicle needs oil & filter service, make an appointment with the dealer, travel the distance, and make a day of it by doing other "fun things!"
With regards to the failure of the timing chains, there are only a few possibilities.
1.) The chain material is defective.
2.) The timing chain components are defective.
3.) The chain is NOT receiving adequate lubrication.
4.) The oil is not being changed frequently.
GM needs to do the research on this issue and "come forward" with their determination. ------- I personally like the looks of the Equinox, and I like the idea of the four cylinder engine, --- but I will NOT CONSIDER A PURCHASE until GM solves these engine problems. ------ I have a 2010 LTZ four cylinder Malibu with 45,000 miles that does NOT burn oil between 2,500 oil and filter changes. ---- The engine is VERY quiet and responsive for a four cylinder. THE QUESTION IS: ---- Why is the four cylinder direct injection engine suffering all of these problems? ---- Is it the additional weight of the SUV? ---- Is it related to the fuel direct injection? ---- Is it a carbon producing engine that seizes the rings on the pistons causing "blow by," and PCV problems, and valve closing problems? ----- Something is different, and GM is not telling the whole story, and it is their responsibility to be "straight forward" with the customer base "IF" they want to sell future Equinox vehicles! ----- Maybe we can get some input on this subject from one of the GM representatives! -------- All the best to everyone! ----- Have a GREAT day! ---- Have some fun! ---- Remember this is not a rehearsal for the real thing. The life you are living in the "here and now" is YOUR LIFE!
Just my opinion. ----- Dwayne
#2095 of 2350 Re: GM Warranty & Extended Warranties! [audionutty]
Jul 18, 2013 (7:37 am)
Has it been proven that the failures on the 2.4 Equinox Engine are manufacturing flaws? ---- Has GM given a reason for the stalling, oil burning and and timing chain failure? ----- I have done a search on the "net," and I have not found any answers to these questions. ---- There are only two possibilities; ---- manufacturing flaws, ---- or not enough maintenance using high quality products. ---- YES, maintenance will not solve an "on-going manufacturing component flaws!" ---- Having said that, now is the time for GM to "shed some light of these problems!" --- People have paid their "hard earned money" for an American name plate vehicle, and they have an "expectation of receiving a high quality vehicle" that operates as designed, and I am sure stalling, rough idling, oil burning and timing chain failure are NOT part of the design of the vehicle by GM.
Best regards! -------- Dwayne