Article Comments- 2010 Lexus HS 250h Full Test

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2010 Lexus HS 250h Full Test and Video - Bottom Line: Drives like a Lexus, only it happens to be a hybrid.(more)

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#7 of 67 Japan release by sjohnson11 Jul 14, 2009 (6:31 pm)
TOKYO/TORRANCE, California — The 2010 Lexus HS 250h, the upscale Toyota brand's first dedicated hybrid model, launched Tuesday in Japan. It ranges in price from the U.S. equivalent of $42,479 to $57,535, Toyota said. If the loaded HS is $57K, I'll get a loaded ES and spend the extra $15K on gas for longer than I would own the car!
#8 of 67 Re: Sunroof ? ? ? [butchfoote] by morey000 Jul 21, 2009 (10:51 am)
Replying to: butchfoote (Jul 14, 2009 6:12 am) The Prius solar panel is not used to charge the battery. Just to run a little fan to keep the interior from heating up so much in the sun. A small solar panel like that wouldn't make a dent in the electric power battery. It's basically a marketing ploy. (but a good one) Replies to this message: larsb (Jul 21, 2009 12:12 pm) ninjaguy (Jul 25, 2009 8:53 pm) butchfoote (Aug 03, 2009 4:02 pm) and 2 more...
#9 of 67 Re: Sunroof ? ? ? [morey000] by larsb Jul 21, 2009 (12:12 pm)
Replying to: morey000 (Jul 21, 2009 10:51 am) morey000 says, "Just to run a little fan to keep the interior from heating up so much in the sun. It's basically a marketing ploy. (but a good one) " Well, that depends on your perspective. Here in AZ, the Prius solar panel system can potentially reduce the inner vehicle temp from 160 to 120 and that makes a HUGE difference in comfort, in saving fuel, and in prolonging the life of the electronics in the vehicle. Replies to this message: ninjaguy (Jul 25, 2009 8:53 pm) butchfoote (Aug 03, 2009 4:02 pm) ninjaguy (Aug 07, 2009 11:48 pm) and 1 more...
#10 of 67 Re: Sunroof ? ? ? [larsb] by ninjaguy Jul 25, 2009 (8:53 pm)
Replying to: larsb (Jul 21, 2009 12:12 pm) The Prius solar panels were originally supposed to charge the battery. With it connected they discovered that it interfered with the radio, i.e., it was transmitting RFI and they were unable to determine why. Thus, for now, it only powers the ventilation fan when parked. Replies to this message: butchfoote (Aug 03, 2009 4:02 pm) ninjaguy (Aug 07, 2009 11:48 pm) butchfoote (Aug 19, 2009 2:49 pm)
#12 of 67 Re: Sunroof ? ? ? [ninjaguy] by butchfoote Aug 03, 2009 (4:02 pm)
Replying to: ninjaguy (Jul 25, 2009 8:53 pm) You must be kidding. Solar panels are dc. They can't generate RFI. Post a link to the source for this if you really think it's true. Thanks Replies to this message: ninjaguy (Aug 07, 2009 11:48 pm) butchfoote (Aug 19, 2009 2:49 pm)
#13 of 67 Worth Thousands More than Camry Hybrid? by akt1000 Aug 05, 2009 (9:11 am)
The closest hybrid Toyota/ Lexus car to Lexus 250h is not Prius, but Toyota Camry Hybrid. Both of them have the same hybrid package with the same fuel mileage, similar body style and similar packaging, with the Camry offering slightly more room. A Camry hybrid can be equipped with most of the luxury options in 250h. So, the important question is (which the reviewer asked, but never answered): why pay quite a few thousands dollars more for a very similar car, except to say that you own a Lexus (and show snobbiness / stupidity)? Replies to this message: sjohnson11 (Aug 05, 2009 2:29 pm) edwardsf (Aug 06, 2009 12:29 pm) akt1000 (Aug 06, 2009 4:08 pm) dat2 (Aug 07, 2009 11:09 am)
#14 of 67 Re: Worth Thousands More than Camry Hybrid? [akt1000] by sjohnson11 Aug 05, 2009 (2:29 pm)
Replying to: akt1000 (Aug 05, 2009 9:11 am) Yes as a matter of fact, it is worth more! First off "most of the luxury options" are not available on the Camry. Here are a few items that are available only on the HS - adaptive LED headlights with smart high beam, ventilated front seats, adaptive cruise control, HUD, LKA, real wood trim, and lets not forget the warranty and service that comes with the Lexus brand. So if spending a few more thousand bucks to get a Toyota Camry Hybrid with a Lexus badge as you allude to is "snobbiness/stupidity" - call me a stuck up retard.....
#15 of 67 Re: Worth Thousands More than Camry Hybrid? [akt1000] by edwardsf Aug 06, 2009 (12:29 pm)
Replying to: akt1000 (Aug 05, 2009 9:11 am) Have you driven the two cars? Have you driven either? I ask because it seems very common in car forums to equate similar sized cars from the same auto company, e.g. Altima - G37, Passat - A4, Accord - TSX. None of these cars has the same platform or drivetrain or suspension system. Some share the same engine but it is calibrated differently. I have driven all six above cars and the luxury versions: handle much more tautly, have more supple suspension, are quieter, have a much more ergonomic and high quality interior, and look much better. To people who don't drive the cars, this is all unimportant detail. To those of us who actually test drive and buy the cars, it is extremely important. What dismays me about this car is the soft Lexus suspension. If you do pay $35k for a sport luxury car, it should be fun to drive. Gimme an Audi A4 TDI Allroad please! Replies to this message: akt1000 (Aug 06, 2009 4:08 pm) dat2 (Aug 07, 2009 11:09 am)
#16 of 67 Re: Worth Thousands More than Camry Hybrid? [edwardsf] by akt1000 Aug 06, 2009 (4:08 pm)
Replying to: edwardsf (Aug 06, 2009 12:29 pm) I am not saying that Lexus 250h can't be worth more money than a similarly-equipped Toyota Camry, provided it drives better or the ride is better etc. I haven't driven Lexus 250h, but the reviewer had. After pointing out the similarity to Toyota Camry Hybrid, he didn't say a single word about the differences in the two cars in terms of driving the two (they have the same drivetrain). I would have liked to read about the real differences between driving the two cars. Also, if there are some important (to the car buyer) options available on one car and not the other, then that can be a big swinger in making the decision on which car to buy. But the fact remains that almost all the standard features on the Lexus 250h are available for about $4500 less on the Toyota Camry Hybrid, Of course, for that lower price, Camry hybrid includes heated seats (important to us), for which Lexus wants one to buy an expensive Touring package or the Premium car.