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Future Vehicles Mahindra diesel pick-up - worth the wait?
12 messages, Last post on Oct 28, 2009 at 6:12 PM
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Replying to: webmartians (Jul 13, 2009 10:36 am) A naturally aspirated diesel is an anchor with wheels. Couldn't keep up with typical US suburban traffic. I highly doubt they'd sell one without a turbo in the US. Turbo's on a diesel are almost a necessity. Some of the most reliable engines in the world are turbodiesels. Ford doesn't actually have a 4-L diesel in any of its vehicles (certainly not in the US). The vehicles you've probably been hearing about are the current Powerstrokes. Ever since 2003, International and Navistar have built exploding engines for Ford's Superduty range. Ford wants out of their contract with International/Navistar so they can supply their own diesels that don't explode. If it is truly well built inside and out, I hope to test-drive as well.
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Replying to: bigmclargehuge (Jul 13, 2009 11:30 am) What mystifies me, is this: 200 HP 440 ft/lbs torque B50 life 408000 miles oil change interval 7500 coolant change interval 300000 2007 EPA compliant in current configuration V6 small footprint configuration Why can't this go in a half ton pickup? |
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I gotta disagree with big----'s comment about naturally aspirated diesel anchors. I drove a 1985 190D for years and loved it. It got 39 mpg on the highway. Drove it until the rust set in. (can't stand rusty cars) . It was a great road car. Diesels just like to run. In town, yep, every body rushes ahead - I always caught up at the stop lights anyway. Big--- alludes to the fact that diesels w/o turbochargers take a bit of time to run up rpm. I never viewed this as a problem. Never did have anyone honk or run over me either. I just let every body else do the competitive driving and drove my little mercedes like to wanted to be driven. The bottom line was that instead of going everywhere and nowhere fast it is much more reasonable to experience going every where deliberately. I currently drive a turbocharged diesel SUV and long for the zen like driving experience of naturally aspirated diesel automobile.
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Replying to: webmartians (Jul 13, 2009 10:36 am) The truck solves many of my needs all-at-once also, so I'm willing to take the $20k chance if my test-drive and dealership experience go well. i've seen the truck dressed up a bit, and I can certainly get used to the look. |
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Replying to: dane8 (Jul 21, 2009 7:03 am) Perhaps its not 'necessary' for all Americans to gun it at stoplights, but Americans typically do. I don't condone it, its just an observation. Nobody is going to pay Frontier/Tacoma money for a truck that has no power. Not in this country. We have lead feet. I have owned both a 1989 Ford F250 6.9 Liter N/A diesel and a 1990 7.3L turbo-diesel F250. Same truck, upgraded motor. You may not think it's a big deal, but I feel the difference is night/day. Anyway: its not like it matters what either of us think about them, since I did check out Mahindra's engines and the one we'll be getting is a turbodiesel. So enjoy the boost  There will be no N/A diesels in US passenger cars in 2010.
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| Thanks for all the feedback. I think a testdrive will be the deciding factor. I wish GV would annonce where they plan to be a when during the Tour Accross America, | |
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Replying to: webmartians (Jul 13, 2009 10:36 am)
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Replying to: rme (Jul 26, 2009 6:23 pm) Logical. I don't think they could meet emissions criteria on a modern diesel without turbocharging. |
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Replying to: bigmclargehuge (Jul 13, 2009 11:30 am)
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Replying to: webmartians (Oct 28, 2009 5:53 pm) Also, I hear that California and New England emissions regulations may be difficult for any new Diesels. I have spoken to EPA folk and, without mentioning any actual results, they warn me that new Diesels for the "left" and "ice" coasts are experiencing some pretty rough regulatory hurdles. Sigh... |
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