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#313 of 428 Re: Which cylinders are most common to fail? [gibson85]
Dec 20, 2012 (9:30 pm)
I left a complaint on NHTSA just last week. Here is a copy of it.
Report Date : December 21, 2012 at 12:21 AM
ODI Numbers Searched: 10489071
Results : 1 | All records displayed
Make : DODGE Model : DURANGO Year : 2004
Manufacturer : Chrysler Group LLC
Crash : No Fire : No Number of Injuries: 0
ODI ID Number : 10489071 Number of Deaths: 0
Date Complaint Filed: December 17, 2012 Date of Incident: September 19, 2012
VIN : Not Available
HOW MANY MORE DODGE DURANGO 2004 IS IT GOING TO TAKE TO INVESTIGATE. CHRYSLER IS RECALLING 2012 VEHICLES FOR THE SAME PROBLEM, WHAT MOST OF THE COMPLAINTS ARE ABOUT, ENGINE FAILURE, BLOWN ROD . IS IT GOING TO TAKING SOMEONE GETTING KILLED TO WAKE YOU UP? SEEMS LIKE SOMEONE IS NOT DOING THEIR JOB . DOESN'T ANYONE READ THE CMPLAINTS OTHER THAN OTHER 2004 DODGE OWNERS?
Of course it is the only complaint even though the only difference with the complaint I made in the fall is I did not put the VIN # in. Maybe if more people complain or question why no one is doing anything maybe that will make someone take notice. If anyone else wants to leave a message like this please do. When I left my first complaint the count was around 450. Last time I looked it is in the 700's.
Dec 21, 2012 (5:32 am)
If your engine has not failed in a major way (big hole in the side) likely it is repairable.
First you need to find out what is the extent of the damage. A common failure is a broken valve spring and this will cause no compression on one cylinder and. This causes the engine to be out of balance and it will run very rough. If you hear a bang-bang-bang-bang-bang while it is running this is a rod bearing failure. But if the noise is loud clang, banging,and thumping, this could be a broken rod. I would suggest DO NOT START IT again. Have it evaluated by a GOOD mechanic. If the engine still runs it should be fixable as long as there isn't a big hole in it.
#315 of 428 2004 hemi
Dec 22, 2012 (8:52 pm)
I had a bent rod at 53000 miles. I was lucky it was under warranty. The same scenario as everyone else, was running fine then started it up and that clunking sound started. I put on 25000 since the repair drove from NY to SC and back no problem so far. If it dies now so be it, get something else with better gas mileage not a Dodge that's for sure.
#316 of 428 In response to those with 5.7 Durango connecting rod issues....
Dec 25, 2012 (2:16 pm)
Wow! I feel for you guys who have problems with your 2004 model 5.7 engines. I had one 2005 limited with a Hemi, towed a trailer with a race car sometimes, and a Corvette at other times. I put 84K on the first one without issues, never, ever a trip back to the dealer after purchase. I changed oil myself and used mobil 1, 5w20 as reccommended, changed every 5K or so. I sold it 4 years ago and the new owner has over 100K, still pulling a trailer and race car.
I purchased a used 2006 with 35K miles on it, Limited model, same engine...Used it in the same manner, and put over 95K miles on it, again with no issues. It was still running great, looked and smelled new, and I received top trade in value for it when I traded it in on a new 2011 Citadel with Hemi. I don't drive as much as before, but still tow a race car on an open aluminum trailer and the new car has been flawless after 15K... I have absolutely no problem recommending these SUVs and pickup trucks, 2005 and newer...YMMV....
#317 of 428 Re: In response to those with 5.7 Durango connecting rod issues.... [ozcop2]
Dec 25, 2012 (4:31 pm)
Thanks for the info. I have a 2005 Dodge Hemi with 94,000 miles. It is still running great after a transmission issue at around 75,000. I was a bit reluctant about keeping it much longer because of the problems with the 2004 models. I love the truck, so will keep it as long as I can.
#318 of 428 Re: In response to those with 5.7 Durango connecting rod issues.... [janap1]
Dec 26, 2012 (5:19 am)
Yeah, here is the issue. There is still no concrete answer WHY these engines are failing. There are theories bandied about but that is about all.
The only answer I can come up with is just bad metallurgy; a lot of rods failed to get checked and went into engines destined for Durangos.
But does that really make sense? This is the same engine that went into pickups and the Jeep vehicles with Hemis, they do not have the same issues. Only Durangos. It gets more murky the closer you look instead of more clear.
#319 of 428 Re: In response to those with 5.7 Durango connecting rod issues.... [drrighteous]
Dec 26, 2012 (7:39 am)
I'm strongly supporting the cowl panel leaking ontop of the engine theory. The last two customers I had with these both claim there was a rainstorm the night before they threw rod #7 on their 04 and 05 Durangos. I decided since this was the case in both scenarios, that I would dribble some water around the back of the intake to simulate the cowl panel leaking in a bad rainstorm. Sure enough the water drained right through the worn intake gasket and into the cylinders. One would think that an intake leak that would allow water through would also allow air through and create a mix issue and and a poorly performing engine. Perhaps the vacuum that is applied on start up pulls the gasket to the point of sealing enough. Either way, upon tearing the engine down the intake gaskets were in very poor condition on both vehicles. The amount of water being let through could easily accumulate to enough of a volume to hydrolock the engine and bend a rod. Can anyone else remember a rain storm before their engine failed? I would highly recommend that anyone who owns one of these to get the revised cowl panel (they were updated in 06, which ads to the theory of why the 04-05 models have this issue) and having the intake gaskets checked out. Cheap insurance in my opinion since the average cost of engine replacement is around $5500-$6500. I know I'm not the only mechanic trying seriously to figure this out. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Especially if others have had failure after a rain storm.
#320 of 428 Re: In response to those with 5.7 Durango connecting rod issues.... [drrighteous]
Dec 26, 2012 (8:06 am)
I have an 04 Ram 1500 that has had the same problem as all of these Durangos, I'm wondering what the connection is as well.
#321 of 428 Re: In response to those with 5.7 Durango connecting rod issues.... [troutautoserv]
Dec 27, 2012 (3:22 pm)
I have a 2004 Durango and have had issues after heavy rain with hydro lock. found water in the #1 cyinder. The cowel leaks water on top of engine. Next step for me is to remove the intake and check gaskets.
#322 of 428 Re: In response to those with 5.7 Durango connecting rod issues.... [ifucantdodgeit]
Dec 27, 2012 (6:59 pm)
My boyfriends Dodge Ram 2004 had the same issue...the motor had water in the oil and was a total loss.