Last post on Nov 27, 2013 at 7:57 PM
You are in the Dodge Durango
What is this discussion about?
Dodge Durango, SUV
#218 of 428 2004 Durango Hemi Reason for Broken Rods
Jan 15, 2012 (12:38 pm)
Ok, so i think i figured out why we are all having or will have problems with the Hemi breaking rods in our Durangos and i think Dodge should admit its a manufacturers defect!. Have you noticed the engine wants to stall when its raining or when in a car wash? How many of us are saying, hey my Durango was fine till i cranked it up in the morning.. well do you remember if it rained that nite? Hmmmmm...... The durango does not have to be in motion for water to get into the engine bay, you will see in this video that tons of water is making its way into and on top of the motor/ intake causing it to get sucked in or simply work its way into the intake and into the cylinder causing the hydrolocking and eventually a broken rod! Hmmm... come on Dodge!
By the way the water is seeping in via the cowl cover that rests on top of the lower part of the front winshield. Dont believe me? open your hood and spray your windshield.. =)
Jan 15, 2012 (5:02 pm)
My Case Manager said I need to bring the Durango to a Dodge Dealer and pay them to conduct a diagnosis, to see if the engine was abused or neglected. What are they, social services? I abused a 76,000 mile engine???? What is abuse and how is it determined?
So even if I pay for a new motor, the water is still going to weep into the engine compartment and ruin the motor? My engine failed when it was sunny and dry, if that matters anything.
#220 of 428 Re: 2004 Durango Hemi Reason for Broken Rods [daddytomykids]
Jan 16, 2012 (5:08 am)
There is a technical service bulletin out for that. Funny though that Dodge says they are not related when my He I blew a year ago.
#221 of 428 Re: 2004 Durango Hemi Reason for Broken Rods [daddytomykids]
Jan 16, 2012 (5:35 am)
The 2 are unrelated.
The water problem is a poor design of the plastic cowl cover. There is a service bulletin on it and there is an updated replacement cover. Normally the stalling and rough running issue is simply the ignition getting wet. Sometimes it is accompanied with a check engine light because of a cylinder misfire code.
Getting water INTO the engine (not on) would have to be a severe breech in the air cleaner assembly or a severe leak in the intake manifold and a huge volume of water, more than the cowl leak will produce. In either one of these events there would be a check engine light. The factory air box/air cleaner system is designed to be water proof under normal circumstances. If someone is driving the vehicle with NONE of the air intake parts installed there would be a risk of hydro-lock because there would be nothing protecting the engines air intake tract. To hydro-lock an engine it has to ingest a significant amount of water all at once.
For an engine to hydro-lock it has to ingest a lot of water equivalent to the air box or air filter being partially submerged.
I have seen this a few times when someone drives a 4x4 across a deep water hole or stream and enough water splashed up the engine gets a "big gulp".
What happens is there is standing water in the cylinder and when the rod moves up for the compression stroke it can't compress it; the weak link is the rod and piston.
#222 of 428 Re: 2004 Durango Hemi Reason for Broken Rods [drrighteous]
Jan 16, 2012 (7:29 am)
Well said dr.righteous! My wires get really wet during a rainstorm or car wash. The plastic cowl cover leaks around the wiper shafts and there is a plastic gromet in the middle that allows water through to engine wires. I installed the K&N cold intake on my vehicle which meant removing the OEM intake box. The box offered some protection but now the wires are fully exposed. So, thank you for infomation on the service bulletin!
#223 of 428 Re: 2004 Durango Hemi Reason for Broken Rods [daddytomykids]
Jan 16, 2012 (3:34 pm)
My Hemi dropped dead in April last year. I cannot remember if it was raining or not but I am just now getting the POS fixed .Took time to get the $$ together. I got an 05 motor hoping the problem wont be like th 04. My mechanic in taking out the old engine asked me if the car spent time under water. 2 cylinders on the old engine were completely filled with water. They could not understand how this could be. Wow, this is the first I heard of it and now you all are saying the same thing. Does this defective junk ever stop? Will Dodge ever fess up?? Dont think so guys...remember, this is pre bankruptcy Dodge. So they take our bail out money and we get nothing but their garbage in return.. Don't ever buy their products again. NO matter what. Thats all we can do.
#224 of 428 Re: 2004 Durango Hemi Reason for Broken Rods [angel121]
Jan 17, 2012 (6:56 am)
I didn't see your engine block of course but if you threw a rod like is typical in the 5.7 failure then having coolant in the adjacent (or actually, any) cylinders wouldn't surprise me much. The broken rod flailing around causes all kind of damage besides possibly punching through the side of the block. I really doubt if water leaking into the engine bay during rainstorms is any cause of these failures. The intake is designed to keep it out unless it gets all the way under water.
#225 of 428 Re: 2004 Durango Hemi Reason for Broken Rods [hazmat1980]
Jan 23, 2012 (5:00 pm)
Saturday I went out to start my 04 durango and it sounded like a bunch of stones were thrown in my engine. I took it to my mechanic and the same problem as everyone else the rods went. I have also experienced the hesitation like it is going to stall when it rains. I can't believe Chrysler is not recalling this I will never buy a dodge again. We should all get together and file a class action suit.
#226 of 428 2005 Durango same thing..
Jan 23, 2012 (5:43 pm)
Went out to start it on Saturday..made that awful noise. Left til it could be towed to the mechanic today.
Just got the call that most likely this the rod is gone. The engine is shot. They have to tear into to see. They said they had one that did this last year.
I was hoping to seek out information that Dodge has stepped up to the plate on this defect.
Ours did start doing the stalling thing in car washes or when it was really raining out it would hesitate.
#227 of 428 Re: 2004 Durango Hemi Reason for Broken Rods [southjersey2]
Jan 23, 2012 (5:44 pm)
Just had this happen with us on Saturday..same thing..and it is 2005