Last post on Dec 04, 2009 at 8:44 AM
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#29 of 38 Re: After 2010 [allmet33]
Sep 30, 2009 (10:08 am)
Hyundai gained a lot of respect from me when they made safety features like ESC, Traction Control, EBD, BA & side curtain airbags etc standard on a family sedan like Sonata. If you remember, back in 2004-2005 only few luxury cars had them standard & supposed family sedan stalwarts like Honda & Toyota had them only as very expensive options. How many Honda Toyota customers bought those expensive options?
I am a transportation engineer by trade & my whole livelihood depends on making trying to make roads safer. We look at accident reports quite frequently & I have become very conscious about the safety features & crash test ratings. Many accidents could have been prevented if even a lowly ABS had been present in cars.
It is easy to entice customers by adding superfluous things like better audio systems or leather. But adding things like Traction Control & ESC requires a lot of engineering effort. Hyundai did that & made them standard on Sonata. When a supposedly lowly upstart could do it, why those so called giants couldn't?
I will always have respect for Hyundai to upping the safety game for family sedans. I doubt Honda & Toyota would have upped their standard safety equipment on Camry & Accord if not for Hyundai.
#30 of 38 Re: After 2010 [wobbly_ears]
Sep 30, 2009 (10:31 am)
Wobbly...I'm there with you. I was a '96 Camry owner until it got totalled in an accident. I went to look at the '02 Camry when it first came out and priced one out...total came to around $23k. A buddy of mine mentioned the '02 Sonata to me and initially I frowned upon it, but I went to look anyway. Well...took one for a spin and found it was highly comparable to the Camry and optioned out to match the Camry I had looked it...the Sonata came in at just under $18k. That deal was hard to walk away from and the next 4 years/105k miles surprised me and built my confindence in the Hyundai brand name. I owned an '87 Excel and let me tell you...the difference is beyond night and day.
#31 of 38 Re: After 2010 [wobbly_ears]
Oct 01, 2009 (3:33 am)
Agree completely, and when safety items are optional, they are often very difficult to find. Dealers order, and carry in stock, cars that they think will appeal to the average buyer. Sadly, most people would rather spend extra money for an upmarket stereo or sunroof than ESC or ABS. Heck, there are still people that won't use a seatbelt - they're sure not going to be impressed by hi tech safety systems.
It's not like the old days where you could order exactly what you wanted and get it in 6 weeks. Purchases now are searches and compromises. Auto websites all have the " Build Your Own " feature, but once you've build it, you can't find it. I "built" a Passat wagon last year, but the configuration could not be found in the entire country.
#32 of 38 Azera surviving another year
Oct 06, 2009 (1:22 pm)
Got a good look at the 2010 Azera this past weekend. Looks like the 2009 with the exception of a larger XM antenna. I do like the grill they put on the 2009 and 2010, getting ready to order one for my 08. It really makes the front stand out IMO. Still putting on the Michelin Energy Plus MXV4 that I will be replacing very shortly, to noisy for my taste. Just made a 650 trip with 28-29 MPG, made my day.
#33 of 38 Re: 2010 Azera? [allmet33]
Dec 03, 2009 (3:43 pm)
The latest I heard from my Hyundai dealer is that while there may be a 2010 Azera, The coming new Sonata will be larger and plusher and will apparently cover both the Sonata and Azera market.
#34 of 38 Re: 2010 Azera? [jaymagic]
Dec 03, 2009 (3:58 pm)
I dont know....The 2011 sonata will only be available with a 4 cylinder(198-200hp). Eventually a turbo 4 will be offered but the 265hp Azera is a sweet ride.
#35 of 38 Re: 2010 Azera? [jaymagic]
Dec 03, 2009 (4:17 pm)
jaymagic, you must mean a 2011 Azera, the 2010's are on the lots. Only word so far is that the 2011 Sonata will not offer V-6's, but it does look good.
#36 of 38 Re: 2010 Azera? [SilverBullet00]
Dec 04, 2009 (7:37 am)
Actually SilverBullet00...there is not word that the Azera will make it to 2011. It was heavily speculated earlier this year with the dropping of the Genesis, that the Azera wouldn't make it to an 2010 model year. Something is telling me that 2010 will be the last model year of the Azera.
Jaymagic...I have been told the same thing about the upcoming Sonata, that it would actually be better than the current Azera. That being said, if the Azera were to come back in '11...it would have to be totally revamped and basically be a FWD version of the Genesis 3.8.
#38 of 38 Re: 2010 Azera? [tenpin288]
Dec 04, 2009 (8:44 am)
Tenpin...yes, I have seen the unveiling of the Cadenza (where do they come up with these names). It's based on that new VG platform...which is actually the sister platform on which the current Azera is based on. Considering the Kia version will be offering AWD, maybe that's one of the upgrades that will go on with the Azera should it stick around beyond 2010. Also...if AWD can be offered on a car such as the Cadenza, then that would mean there's hope that the Genesis and possibly the upcoming Equus could also offer that feature as well.
However, back tracking on my statement about the Azera not making it past 2010...I found this little blurb in Wikipedia on the Kia Opirus (Amanti)...
"The Kia VG concept (Kia KND-5, production model named Cadenza) was reported to be successor of Amanti, based on the platform for the next generation of Hyundai Azera."
So maybe that would mean that the upcoming Azera would be set apart from the Sonata by offering features like AWD, LED headlight surrounds, heated & cooled seats, extendable seat cushions and other features that the Cadenza will offer.