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Re: After 2010 [allmet33]
by wobbly_ears
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Sep 30, 2009 (6:16 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Sep 30, 2009 5:53 am)
Yep, they would love to see nothing but elimination of every Hyundai model from Elantra & up. Helps them with their interpretation of what a 'real' automaker is.
Btw, I have also seen a 2010 Azera on dealer lots here in Houston.
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Re: After 2010 [wobbly_ears]
by allmet33
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Sep 30, 2009 (6:37 am)
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Replying to: wobbly_ears (Sep 30, 2009 6:16 am)
Considering Hyundai is ranked in the top 5 as an automaker...that in itself should offer substance to the fact that Hyundai is indeed a 'real' automaker. Some are just in denial and forget that Honda & Toyota both didn't have pristine starts here in the U.S. I mean...the term "jap crap" came about becuase of the poor quality that was put into the early models coming from Japan. However, they stuck with it and realized they had to improve quality if they planned on sticking around and flourished over the years. Hyundai is doing the very same thing, and it drives the Japanese stalwarts crazy that a supposed inferior S. Korean automaker could possibly offer legitimate competition. With this planet growing smaller on a daily basis, with playing fields being leveled because of accessibility to technology or the people that create it...why is it so far fetched to believe? Personally...I love it!!! 
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Re: After 2010 [allmet33]
by wobbly_ears
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Sep 30, 2009 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Sep 30, 2009 6:37 am)
Hyundai gained a lot of respect from me when they made safety features like ESC, Traction Control, EBD, BA & side curtain airbags etc standard on a family sedan like Sonata. If you remember, back in 2004-2005 only few luxury cars had them standard & supposed family sedan stalwarts like Honda & Toyota had them only as very expensive options. How many Honda Toyota customers bought those expensive options?
I am a transportation engineer by trade & my whole livelihood depends on making trying to make roads safer. We look at accident reports quite frequently & I have become very conscious about the safety features & crash test ratings. Many accidents could have been prevented if even a lowly ABS had been present in cars.
It is easy to entice customers by adding superfluous things like better audio systems or leather. But adding things like Traction Control & ESC requires a lot of engineering effort. Hyundai did that & made them standard on Sonata. When a supposedly lowly upstart could do it, why those so called giants couldn't?
I will always have respect for Hyundai to upping the safety game for family sedans. I doubt Honda & Toyota would have upped their standard safety equipment on Camry & Accord if not for Hyundai.
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Re: After 2010 [wobbly_ears]
by allmet33
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Sep 30, 2009 (9:31 am)
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Replying to: wobbly_ears (Sep 30, 2009 9:08 am)
Wobbly...I'm there with you. I was a '96 Camry owner until it got totalled in an accident. I went to look at the '02 Camry when it first came out and priced one out...total came to around $23k. A buddy of mine mentioned the '02 Sonata to me and initially I frowned upon it, but I went to look anyway. Well...took one for a spin and found it was highly comparable to the Camry and optioned out to match the Camry I had looked it...the Sonata came in at just under $18k. That deal was hard to walk away from and the next 4 years/105k miles surprised me and built my confindence in the Hyundai brand name. I owned an '87 Excel and let me tell you...the difference is beyond night and day.
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Re: After 2010 [wobbly_ears]
by cobrazera
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Oct 01, 2009 (2:33 am)
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Replying to: wobbly_ears (Sep 30, 2009 9:08 am)
Agree completely, and when safety items are optional, they are often very difficult to find. Dealers order, and carry in stock, cars that they think will appeal to the average buyer. Sadly, most people would rather spend extra money for an upmarket stereo or sunroof than ESC or ABS. Heck, there are still people that won't use a seatbelt - they're sure not going to be impressed by hi tech safety systems.
It's not like the old days where you could order exactly what you wanted and get it in 6 weeks. Purchases now are searches and compromises. Auto websites all have the " Build Your Own " feature, but once you've build it, you can't find it. I "built" a Passat wagon last year, but the configuration could not be found in the entire country.
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Azera surviving another year
by SilverBullet00
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Oct 06, 2009 (12:22 pm)
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Got a good look at the 2010 Azera this past weekend. Looks like the 2009 with the exception of a larger XM antenna. I do like the grill they put on the 2009 and 2010, getting ready to order one for my 08. It really makes the front stand out IMO. Still putting on the Michelin Energy Plus MXV4 that I will be replacing very shortly, to noisy for my taste. Just made a 650 trip with 28-29 MPG, made my day.
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