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Re: Can I give away my CARS voucher? [doidoadiesel] by stephen987
Jul 06, 2009 (11:30 am)
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Replying to: doidoadiesel (Jul 06, 2009 11:11 am)

The voucher goes to the dealer. So it's not really "yours" to give away. If you and your girlfriend want to buy the new vehicle together then you could probably do it.
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Re: to kernich and volvomax [jeffyscott] by srs_49
Jul 06, 2009 (11:32 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Jul 06, 2009 10:51 am)

Car salesmen do get a somewhat distorted view of the average car owner ...
 
Probably so. When we bought the truck 4 years ago, we went back to the same dealer we had used when we bought our '94 Caravan. It was going to be a cash deal, but the salesman was hung up on monthly payments and we had a hard time getting a bottom line out of him. He kept saying things like "what monthly payment would it take to get you into the truck". We finally walked and went to another dealer who understood where we were coming from.
 
In all fairness to the dealer, the "monthly payments" line was all that 90% of his customers cared about. But, he lost the sale because of it.
 
And yeah, I'm probably one of those customers kernich and volvomax have expressed no desire to see grace their dealerships. Doesn't matter, there are plenty of car dealers in the area. It's a buyer's market out there.
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Re: to kernich and volvomax [kathyc2] by lemko
Jul 06, 2009 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: kathyc2 (Jul 06, 2009 10:57 am)

How about somebody driving a white Bronco very, very slowly?
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Re: to kernich and volvomax [lemko] by kathyc2
Jul 06, 2009 (11:53 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 06, 2009 11:49 am)

LMAO!
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Is my truck a category one or two? by gagrice
Jul 06, 2009 (12:12 pm)
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According to Cars.gov a category 2 PU truck is 115 inch wheel base or longer.
 
A category 2 truck is a large van or a large pickup truck, based upon the length of the wheelbase (more than 115 inches for pickup trucks and more than 124 inches for vans). Note: some pickup trucks and cargo vans exceeding these thresholds are treated as category 3 trucks instead of category 2 trucks.
 
My Ranger is 125 inch wheel base. If that is the case I only need to improve the mileage by 2 MPG for the $4500 voucher.
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Re: to kernich and volvomax [srs_49] by volvomax
Jul 06, 2009 (3:13 pm)
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Replying to: srs_49 (Jul 06, 2009 11:32 am)

And yeah, I'm probably one of those customers kernich and volvomax have expressed no desire to see grace their dealerships. Doesn't matter, there are plenty of car dealers in the area. It's a buyer's market out there
 
Man I wish they taught reading comprehension on the internet.
MY point was that we would see VERY few people for this program because the VAST majority of people with these cars either a) were financially unable to buy a new car or b) philosophically opposed to it(I believe I cited the example of all the old Volvo drivers). In that group, (a) is the far larger group. Doesn't mean that you can't know someone from the (b) group. Only that the odds are very low. As someone mentioned,selling cars is all about playing the odds. I've been doing this for over 20 yrs and I'm pretty dure I've seen just about everything. So, don't make it like I don't want to see someone pull on the lot with an 88 Lebaron leaking oil all over the place.That persons money spends as well as anyone's. That is, if he has the money in the first place.
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Re: to kernich and volvomax [volvomax] by fintail
Jul 06, 2009 (3:31 pm)
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Replying to: volvomax (Jul 06, 2009 3:13 pm)

I read today that this legislation is expected to be a factor in the sale of 250K units. Looking at overall yearly sales, that's not a huge amount.
 
I am sure the average salesman is much more pleased to see an immaculate older (and still worth very little) car than a neglected heap - vehicle care too can be something on which to make an educated guess. Not a rule, but a way to play an odds game.
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Re: to kernich and volvomax [fintail] by volvomax
Jul 06, 2009 (3:54 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 06, 2009 3:31 pm)

I am sure the average salesman is much more pleased to see an immaculate older (and still worth very little) car than a neglected heap - vehicle care too can be something on which to make an educated guess. Not a rule, but a way to play an odds game.
 
That can go either way. Usually(that means most of the time for you comprehension challenged types) the person with the immaculate older car thinks its worth all the moeny while the guy with the heap knows it's not worth squat and may be more motivated to do a deal.
If I see a late model car that clearly hasn't been cared for,that sets off alarm bells with me. Maybe this person doesn't have any money.
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Re: to kernich and volvomax [fintail] by jeffyscott
Jul 06, 2009 (4:54 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 06, 2009 3:31 pm)

Ah, but that doesn't stop them from advertising as if everyone can get an extra $4500 off. I happened to just see this on the Suzuki website today, they seem to avoid mentioning the 18 mpg requirement, even in the footnotes, and say:
 
ALL NEW SUZUKI CARS, SUVS AND TRUCKS QUALIFY FOR THE CAR ALLOWANCE REBATE SYSTEM!
  
There will NEVER be a better time to buy a new Suzuki than this summer! Washington’s CARS bill (Car Allowance Rebate System), designed to get old gas-guzzlers off the road and help clean up the environment, means that in addition to the cash-saving Suzuki incentives of up to $5,750 on qualifying vehicles, you can get up to an additional $4,500 in CARS rebates towards the purchase of a new Suzuki, meaning NEARLY $10,250 IN SAVINGS!3

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