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Cash for Clunkers - Does it Work for You?

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Re: Wait for the bill or not? [volvomax] by dtownfb
Jul 01, 2009 (9:25 am)
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Replying to: volvomax (Jul 01, 2009 8:32 am)

I think they are accurate. I've been doing this for 20 yrs
 
Which is why I like reading your advice as well as the other regular salesmen and finance managers that post here. I still think it's an over generalization but we still agree on the overall premise. We (kernick included) are just looking at "financial reasons" a bit differently. No biggie.
 
Unfortunately, our obsession for shiny, new, good smelling things has controlled our society for the past several years. With the way the banks are acting (your example hits the nail on the head), we, the people, need to get our personal credit situations taken care of before buying big ticket items that require credit. I have a bad feeling that this is the new normal for banking/lending for the foreseeable future. Or until the housing market turns around. The big banks still have a lot of money invested in bad mortgages and aren't willing to take risks.
 
Unfortunately, you all are the collateral damages of this housing crisis fiasco.
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Re: Wait for the bill or not? [joel0622] by greanpea68
Jul 01, 2009 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Jun 30, 2009 5:12 am)

Found out two things yesterday. One is that any dealer caught not executing the program properly will be fined $15K per violation. Also learned that the dealer will recieve a $50 admin fee for each transaction. So that means if you are due $4500 from Uncle Obama you will get $4550.
 

 
Thanks Joel.... good info... I didn't have that yet. It seems to be all we are talking about here atthe store these days is this program.
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Re: Wait for the bill or not? [joel0622] by greanpea68
Jul 01, 2009 (10:42 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Jun 30, 2009 12:12 pm)

The best advice for now is for everyone to sit tight, ignore everything you have heard, and wait for the final word on it to come out
     

 
EXACTLLLLYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Everyone is acting like a expert, it will be interesting to see how this all unfolds.
 
GP
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Re: Wait for the bill or not? [volvomax] by greanpea68
Jul 01, 2009 (10:46 am)
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Replying to: volvomax (Jun 30, 2009 3:15 pm)

From my experience,there is usually a financial reason why people drive clunkers or older cars. Even with the gov't cheese I think the vast majority of them would be unable or unwilling to take on a new car loan.
  
Remember, in order for this program to make sense you have to be driving a broken down,nasty, POS. Most older used cars are worth more than $3500.
The people driving them aren't coming in the door as it is.
     

 
I was just starting tothink about the same thing Volvo.... there is a reason these people drive these vehicles.... mainly they couldn't get approved for a new vehicle loan and were stuck with these vehicles... although the money down may help a little I am sure banks will be very wary of this also..... once again very interesting stuff will be happening
 
GP
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Re: Wait for the bill or not? [joegiant] by greanpea68
Jul 01, 2009 (10:49 am)
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Replying to: joegiant (Jun 30, 2009 5:49 pm)

live check-to-check and have poor credit and therefore won't "qualify" for a loan thus NOT driving up the demand for vehicles
 
Nope things should be business as usual
 
GP
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Re: Wait for the bill or not? [dtownfb] by greanpea68
Jul 01, 2009 (10:55 am)
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Replying to: dtownfb (Jun 30, 2009 7:02 pm)

If the dealer sees a pattern of people not getting qualifiedy a person, why not discuss financing upfront like real estate agents do?
 
I wish I could do that with everyone but that is just not the way to sell vehicles. You have to go through the sales process no matter what. If you don't and you start talking about numbers up front you are selling numbers and not being a sales person! You can't sell value by talking about numbers, which means you probably won't make profit and remember that is why dealerships exist
 
I know it is a dirty word "profit" but everyone else makes it. Why not dealers?
 
Ya know what I love...... I love it when consumers say "oh, I want you to make a profit!" ....."I am just going to shop every dealer in town so I can get the best price"
 
That is like saying "Can I get a Big mac, Fries, and diet coke"
 
GP
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Re: Wait for the bill or not? [greanpea68] by dtownfb
Jul 01, 2009 (10:57 am)
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Replying to: greanpea68 (Jul 01, 2009 10:46 am)

"I was just starting tothink about the same thing Volvo.... there is a reason these people drive these vehicles.... mainly they couldn't get approved for a new vehicle loan and were stuck with these vehicles... although the money down may help a little I am sure banks will be very wary of this also..... once again very interesting stuff will be happening"
 
et tu, greenpea. Et tu!
 
here's a question for you guys: Do you think car manufacturers will include their own incentives with this program to sweeten the deal even more? We are getting close to the end of the model year. Will we see cash rebates or special financing along with this program?
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Re: Wait for the bill or not? [dtownfb] by greanpea68
Jul 01, 2009 (11:02 am)
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Replying to: dtownfb (Jul 01, 2009 10:57 am)

Do you think car manufacturers will include their own incentives with this program to sweeten the deal even more?
 
Of course maufacturers will offer incentives.... This govt rebate is a third party... so basically nothing has changed except our "taxes"
 
Manufacturers will still continue with incentives becasue the govt cheese doesn't change anything. There is still competition.
 
GP
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Re: Wait for the bill or not? [greanpea68] by dtownfb
Jul 01, 2009 (11:10 am)
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Replying to: greanpea68 (Jul 01, 2009 10:55 am)

Big macs and diet Cokes should never be in the same sentence. You ever see the amount of sodium in a Big mac??
 
I believe dealers should make a profit. how else are you going to stay in business? i also see firsthand the good work they do in a community. But I am also the person who doesn't shop for a car unless I am serious about buying and know i can afford the car. I also treat the salesman with respect too which is why my car buying experiences have been pretty good.
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BMW 735i by prodrive
Jul 01, 2009 (11:22 am)
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This (deal) hand-out might work out well for me...
 
I'm driving a BMW 735i, I have been beating it to death for a few years it looks good & runs fine but has no real value..
 
So, I'm thinking of a 4 door Honda Civic SI for around $ 19,500 - 1,250 cash from Honda - 4,500 from the Gov = around 14,000 for a new car.
 
I have to look into this some more, But it could be a good deal for me..

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