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Re: Negotiated Scrap Value under C4C/CARS ?? [isellhondas] by kdhspyder
Jul 13, 2009 (9:19 am)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Jul 12, 2009 4:30 pm)

I wouldn't plan on any scrap value. As I see it, the junk yards are going to have the upper hand here. They will probably dictate the rules.
 
Yes I think that it will be the scrap yards that make out best here. They will be given vehicles ( free of charge except for towing ) that they can then take apart and retail out at junkyard prices at some time down the road, then they have to spend the time and expense to destroy the engine and body but then they can resell the bundled auto scrap to the markets all over the world at the going market prices.
 
A capable owner should strip off everything that's of any value before dropping it off.
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Re: Yes [ldisler] by cyclone83
Jul 13, 2009 (9:52 am)
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Replying to: ldisler (Jul 13, 2009 6:40 am)

We are trading in a 96 Pontiac Bonneville that is rated at 18 mpg. I haven't looked very closely, the Mazda5 is category 1 truck???
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Re: Yes [cyclone83] by british_rover
Jul 13, 2009 (9:58 am)
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Replying to: cyclone83 (Jul 13, 2009 9:52 am)

Most likely yes most Minivans are rated as Cat 1 trucks and as a truck it does get six mpg better then your Old Bonne, sorry to see that go by the way I always liked them, so you should qualify for the 4,500 bucks.
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Re: Yes [british_rover] by cyclone83
Jul 13, 2009 (10:07 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (Jul 13, 2009 9:58 am)

That is awesome news, thanks. I am sad to see the Bonne go as well, it is the 3rd (and last) Bonne that I will have driven. Excited for our first new car though.
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Re: Yes [british_rover] by ldisler
Jul 13, 2009 (12:12 pm)
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Replying to: british_rover (Jul 13, 2009 9:58 am)

Automatic 5's are five MPG and stick shifts are six better, but still $4500 CFC.
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Re: Yes [cyclone83] by hpmctorque
Jul 13, 2009 (12:14 pm)
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Replying to: cyclone83 (Jul 13, 2009 9:52 am)

How many miles on your Bonneville?
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Re: Yes [hpmctorque] by cyclone83
Jul 13, 2009 (12:33 pm)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Jul 13, 2009 12:14 pm)

Somewhere around 125000
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Cash for Clunkers - Poorly Written by zaheer
Jul 13, 2009 (4:55 pm)
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I looked into the details of Cash for Clunkers and it was interesting to see that a 19-year old car does not qualify. I have a 1990 Maxima with over 170K miles which should have been a perfect "clunker" to trade-in for a new car. However, the EPA mileage rating on the Maxima when new is 19 mpg. It does not matter that I probably get a lot less mpg on the car right now but due to the 18 mpg maximum requirement for C4C, this car does not qualify. If I was in Germany, they would have gladly taken in the trade-in since their Clunker program does not look at gas mileage, only the age of the trade-in (10 years or older).
 
It is disappointing to see a program that is so narrow in focus which may not really help American car manufacturers since most of the high gas mileage cars are Japanese or Korean. If the intent was to help U.S. car manufacturers (especially GM and Chrysler), it should not have been combined with the gas mileage requirement.
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Re: Cash for Clunkers - Poorly Written [zaheer] by kdhspyder
Jul 13, 2009 (7:25 pm)
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Replying to: zaheer (Jul 13, 2009 4:55 pm)

There has to be a cutoff somewhere and for sure whereever that cutoff is the person with a vehicle that's one mpg higher will not be happy.
 
Also think how bad all the real guzzlers from that era are in comparison to your Maxima. If you've fallen from say 19 mpg to say 15 mpg a 91 Chevy 1500 began at 15 mpg. It's probably scraping by at 10 mpg now.
 
The intent was to help all the automakers, and all the parts of the transaction from raw material supplier to parts maker to auto maker to trucker to clean up crew to salespeople to dealers to state tax revenues.
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Re: Cash for Clunkers - Poorly Written [zaheer] by british_rover
Jul 14, 2009 (8:41 am)
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Replying to: zaheer (Jul 13, 2009 4:55 pm)

Lets see just counting Chevy alone and not counting multiple trim or engine levels they have 14 different vehicles that qualify. The Cobalt XFE gets good enough mileage to pick up the $4,500 voucher and I bet the Hybrid Malibu does the same.
 
Toyota has 16 vehicles by my count, I am not counting the Solara as it is a 2008 model and being discontinued, so not really a big difference there.

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