Sign In Join 



2010 RX 350 Features, driving experiences and Problems

156 messages,  Last post on Dec 05, 2009 at 7:43 AM

You are in the Lexus RX 300/330/350 Forum. Your Hosts are steve_ & tidester

What is this discussion about? Lexus RX 330, Lexus RX 350, Car Comparisons,,, SUV


Messages Page 11 of 17
1
...
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
...
17
Prev
Next
Last
Go To Msg #
Search This Discussion

#93 of 156
Gas by rparis
Oct 13, 2009 (1:54 pm)
Reply
Has any one tried using regular gas (87 octane)?
#94 of 156
DAYLIGHT RUNNING LIGHT by salty110
Oct 14, 2009 (12:13 pm)
Reply
Just a quick question. Does the 2010RX350 has the daylight running light like the 2009 model?
#95 of 156
RX350 2010 PROBLEMS by bv2000
Oct 14, 2009 (12:22 pm)
Reply
Is no one else bothered that you cannot play the radio at a decent volume and use the navigation system at the same time?
#96 of 156
Re: RX350 2010 PROBLEMS [bv2000] by wrahn
Oct 14, 2009 (12:36 pm)
Reply

Replying to: bv2000 (Oct 14, 2009 12:22 pm)

Yes I am bothered, but what can I do if the system will not decrease the volume of the radio when the NAV voice comes on. I directed the NAV voice to the left side speaker and some of the radio to the rear, but it's still a problem to hear the NAV when the radio, CD or USB is on.
 
My 2005 RX didn't have this problem.
 
Wes
#97 of 156
Re: RX350 2010 PROBLEMS [wrahn] by rparis
Oct 14, 2009 (2:17 pm)
Reply

Replying to: wrahn (Oct 14, 2009 12:36 pm)

Does the radio stay on when the navigation "speaks" . Can you hear the navr or the radio when both are on?
#98 of 156
Re: Anyone driven the 2010 RX350 AWD on the beach? [wwest] by juschecking
Oct 15, 2009 (4:07 am)
Reply

Replying to: wwest (Oct 08, 2009 11:53 am)

How does the 2010's new AWD Lock mode really work? I was of the impression that when engaged, the rear driveline is locked to the front and that this state is maintained until you either put on the brakes, exceed 25mph or disengage it. In other words, that it acts pretty much like a true SUV's 4WD-high. Have I got this wrong?
#99 of 156
Re: RX350 2010 PROBLEMS [rparis] by wrahn
Oct 15, 2009 (6:38 am)
Reply

Replying to: rparis (Oct 14, 2009 2:17 pm)

rparis
 
Yes. The volume of the device you are playing remains the same when the NAV "speaks". If you like loud music, then you'll have a hard time hearing the NAV instructions. (Of course, you can always do a U-turn and then turn the device off and when the NAV repeats the instruction you'll hear it). JOKE!
 
As it stated before, my 2005 didn't have this problem.
 
Wes
#100 of 156
Re: Anyone driven the 2010 RX350 AWD on the beach? [juschecking] by wwest
Oct 15, 2009 (8:48 am)
Reply

Replying to: juschecking (Oct 15, 2009 4:07 am)

"..have I got this wrong.."
 
Yes, at least partially.
 
Most of the time the Venza and new 2010 RX350 (and the Ford Escape, Escape hybrid, Mercury Mariner, Mariner hybrid, Mazda Tribute, CX-7) F/awd systems only drive the front wheels.
 
The exceptions are:
 
1. As you accelerate in a straight line from a stop or from a very low speed the coupling to the rear might be as high as 100%, 50/50 F/R. On a highly tractive surface this will undoubtedly result in some minor level of driveline windup and/or tire scrubbing. But "this" is being done as a preventative measure, pre-emptive engagement of engine drive torque to the rear to reduce the potential for loss of traction were the torque ONLY applied to the front wheels. FWD vehicles, especially hybrids (low speed torque in ABUNDANCE, have too great a propensity for loss of control should the roadbed "happen" to be slippery.
 
The vehicle systems, VSC/Trac/VDIM have no method for detecting road conditions in advance so the rear drive is coupled in only on the chance of encountering a slippery roadbed.
 
2. Non-straight-line acceleration from a low speed or from a stop.
 
Due to the rather SEVERE level of driveline windup and/or tire scrubbing that might result it is highly unusual for an "AWD" system to have both front and rear drivelines engaged in an accelerating low speed turn, "tight" turn, as these new F/awd systems often will. 20% seems to be the common number.
 
Compromises, be damned if you do and be damned if you don't.
 
As everyone should know, driving only the front wheels in this circumstance will result in TONS of torque stear while also raising the potential for plowing, understearing, dramatically. But then with a "strong" engine, or a hybrid, the danger from loss of control due to front loss of traction when ONLY the front wheels are driven rises rather dramatically.
 
So, the compromise, introduce a slight level of driveline windup and/or tire scrubbing in order to reduce torque stear and the inherent HAZARDS of FWD with a HIGH torque capability.
 
3. "This one" really should have been listed first but on the other hand it is also the one most undesirable. When in FWD "only" mode and upon detection of wheelspin/slip due to the use of too much engine drive torque for traction conditions TC will react (REACT...!!) INSTANTY by fully dethrottling the engine, applying braking to the slipping wheel(s), and in the F/awd case increasing the drive torque coupling to the rear driveline.
 
"3" is the traditional F/awd mode, the ONLY mode, remaining in use, for the moment, on the HL and Sienna. This is also the mode that has led to the massive public outcry that finally resulted in the availability of a PB whereby TC could be disabled.
 
Absent the ability to disable TC these vehicles simply left you "dead in the water" when trying to "escape" from an all wheel slippage surface condition.
 
The MIXED bag.
 
Many of the earlier implementations of this new F/awd system gave the driver the ability to engage the rear drive system at speeds up to ~25MPH. Especially useful off-road when speeds are traditionally quite low an/or in KNOWN slippery road conditions.
 
Apparently many drivers didn't follow instructions and the PTO would overheat and go TU accordingly. Some marques reacted by eliminating the driver's ability to engage the system manually. Others (Ford) eliminated the switch AND used firmware revisions to derate, reduce the overall functionality of the F/awd system. Mazda, at least for the 244HP F/awd CX-7, added water cooling to the PTO such that it was unlikely to fail if used continously, off-road, or even inappropreately.
 
The RX350 has the PB switch so the rear driveline can be manually engaged until/unless the speed is above 25MPH. The Venza does not. Apparently Lexus drivers can be tested to use the F/awd mode judiciously, while the Venza drivers cannot. It will be interesting to see, watch, just how long it will take Lexus to either add the PTO cooling or eliminate the switch.
 
It is also interesting to note that the newest Porsche 911 series uses this same electromagnetic clutch design to implement the C4's R/awd system. proportional, linear, control of the level of front drive torque supplied.
#101 of 156
Re: Anyone driven the 2010 RX350 AWD on the beach? [wwest] by juschecking
Oct 15, 2009 (12:35 pm)
Reply

Replying to: wwest (Oct 15, 2009 8:48 am)

REALLY appreciate your time and expertise on this issue. We always wish we had enough base knowledge on this to really understand all you say. Sounds like, in the case of the 2010 RX350, if we take this vehicle down to the beach, let the air out to about 20 PSI, engage the AWD Lock and drive about 10 miles an hour, we should be OK. ?? Please say yes. (Joke) Would you know if there are any issues with letting out the air, in terms of how other systems (tire pressure monitoring, ABS, traction control, stability control, etc) might react?
#102 of 156
Re: Anyone driven the 2010 RX350 AWD on the beach? [juschecking] by wwest
Oct 15, 2009 (6:05 pm)
Reply

Replying to: juschecking (Oct 15, 2009 12:35 pm)

Personally I wouldn't deflat the tire until I discovered the necessaty. Provided all 4 tires are deflated equally I suspect that only the TPMS would fault. But keep in mind why the Ford Exploder is called that.

Messages Page 11 of 17
1
...
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
...
17
Prev
Next
Last
Go To Msg #
Search This Discussion
To POST a message, please Sign In.

New? Join Now!

Forum Tools

Please sign in.
Email Address:

Password:

Forgot Password?

Search Forums

Enter Keyword(s)

Advanced Search

Browse by Vehicle



View All Vehicles
Advertisement
Ask the Community
See What People Are Asking

Browse by Board

Browse by Topic


View All Topics

Today's Chats

Advertisement