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#616 of 687 Re: 2011 Toyota Sienna vs. All-New Nissan Quest [808speedcruzr]
Mar 28, 2011 (6:32 am)
I won't defend the Sienna, but I will join the Cost Cutting Police and point out where Nissan cut corners:
* you give up about 40 cubic feet of total cargo space
* floor isn't flat, you have gaps and holes
* 3rd row seats are child-sized
* Cargo floor falls about 10" short of fitting a sheet of plywood
* peach fuzz headliner is awful cheap
* sun visors also cheap
* arm rests are vinyl, not leather
* storage cubbies are seriously lacking
* none of the cup holders can fit mug handles
The seats are plush, and I like the pin-striping. You can fold all the seats forward easily and don't have to store them. The arm rest angles adjust like 2006 and prior Siennas did.
Mixed bag, for sure.
#617 of 687 Re: 2011 Toyota Sienna vs. All-New Nissan Quest [ateixeira]
Mar 28, 2011 (7:13 am)
Appreciate your assessment of the Quest vs. Sienna. Thought the first 4 items particularly important and reaffirms my decision to buy the Sienna LTD (Fully loaded).
#618 of 687 It's really sad
Apr 28, 2011 (7:02 pm)
It's sad to read all these comments on the new Sienna, especially that the previous generation Sienna was THAT MUCH better. All the critics, magazines, testers, and private owners attest the same.
Toyota still makes some terrific vehicles, but they seem to go downhill/backwards with every refresh or new release. IMO the Sienna and Corolla are the strongest examples. The new Sienna do have some nice standard features over the previous generation, like Bluetooth and backup camera, but they eliminated so many useful ideas from last generation for no apparent reason, like all the stowage areas and bins, and many more.
What's going on? Go figure.
#619 of 687 Re: It's really sad [samnoe]
Apr 28, 2011 (8:27 pm)
Yes, I agree. I owned a 2004 which was a great vehicle and the 2009/10 version was even better. For two years I looked forward to buying the new 2011 version, test drove one for several hundred miles via a car rental agency and was ultimately very discouraged. The rental agency also said that the 2011's are not as good as the earlier version due to some hardware failures not seen in the last version. I will, regrettably ,not be buying one.
#620 of 687 Re: It's really sad [fawltytowers44]
Apr 29, 2011 (4:11 am)
We're pretty happy with ours. In 2005 we easily picked the Ody over the Sienna. In 2011 it went the other way. I actually still prefer the Ody but the wife was sold on the Sienna, particularly the trim/features of the Ltd. Beyond the dash material I really don't have any serious complaints. We have had LE model rentals and they seem to be pretty low-rent all around so if our budget was quite a bit lower I don't think we would have gone with the Sienna.
#621 of 687 Re: It's really sad [fawltytowers44]
Apr 29, 2011 (7:56 am)
Owned a 04 LE AWD, and planned to get an 2011 XLE AWD. Until the day I supposed to sign the paper, I back out. I just didn't have the same excitment. Although the 04 didn't have leather, sunroof but still feel more useful/nicer then the 2011 XLE.
We ended up getting an used 07 Highlander knowing it probably hold value better in a year or 2. By then we will get back to the minivan market hoping there are some improvement on the Sienna.
#622 of 687 Re: 2011 Toyota Sienna vs. All-New Nissan Quest [ateixeira]
Apr 29, 2011 (8:00 am)
I really don't think smaller cargo space = cost cutting or concern cutting.
The reason Quest has less cargo space is the way the van is designed. The fold flat 2nd row might work good with specific buyers. Same for the 3rd row, small family might like the flat cargo over the seating space if they like to go to homedepot all the time.
I checked out the van in person, same as the Odyssey, some good and bad but one thing for sure, the 1st row is VERY NICE
#623 of 687 Re: 2011 Toyota Sienna vs. All-New Nissan Quest [loucapri]
May 02, 2011 (7:08 am)
Yeah, that's not cost cutting per se, just less utility out of a vehicle targeted at people who want utility.
The cargo isn't totally flat and there are gaps and holes when the seats are folded. I recommend a tarp, cardboard, or something to line the floor that will seal up those holes.
I liked the front seats also, the piping on the seats sure looks upscale.
#624 of 687 Opportunity for Kia?
May 02, 2011 (7:19 am)
I'm anxious to see the new Sedona, because I honestly think the segment leaders have dropped the ball and left the championship among minivans up for grabs.
Read Ody reviews, by the way, it's no longer the driver's minivan it once was. And you get a 5 speed unless you spend over $40k, too. CR dropped its score in their review (as they did for the Sienna).
If I were buying today, to be honest, I may go CPO on a 2010 Sienna.
#625 of 687 Re: Opportunity for Kia? [ateixeira]
May 02, 2011 (7:55 am)
I agree with you. Based on current Kia redisgned model, there may be some surprised from Kia to bring a better Sedona. This van needs to step up.
I too can't believe so many misses from Toyota, Nissan and Honda. Their new vans do have some good thing to go for but it seems like the last gen van (except Quest) has better overall function/quality.