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#400 of 687 Re: 2011 vs. my 2007 [ateixeira]
May 25, 2010 (11:07 am)
Your assessment of the 2011 Sienna interior is same as those that started complaining when the Venza was introduced. It seems like Toyota is going backward on interior quality appointments.
It is not the cup holders that remain after the 8th seat is removed that bother me. It is the seat bases that remain after you remove the second row of seats. (At this time the cup holders come out with one of the two seats) These bases are just plain in the way if you need all the cargo room in the van behind the front seats.
#401 of 687 Re: 2011 vs. my 2007 [nobo]
May 25, 2010 (11:10 am)
I briefly looked at a Venza, too. The Venza still has some padded surfaces, the dash material is better for instance.
They also had a Camry Hybrid in the showroom, and it had a nicely padded dash, best among the three of them, actually.
I wonder if Honda will follow suit, i.e. cost cutting on the materials.
At least Toyota added content to offset that.
I did not remove the seats completely, so I didn't notice the seat bases.
#403 of 687 Re: 11 Sienna is a IIHS Top Safety Pick [szn1]
May 28, 2010 (6:57 am)
Saw that yesterday.
That's a strong roof! It held more than 4 times the Sienna's weight! And the van is no lightweight.
#404 of 687 Re: 11 Sienna is a IIHS Top Safety Pick [szn1]
May 28, 2010 (7:31 am)
It's good to know that Toyota can build a strong roof. Now they need to get to work making the interior up to previous Sienna quality.
#405 of 687 Re: Question on pricing [nikkib3]
May 28, 2010 (11:40 am)
"So if you do the "internet pricing" and they give you a price, is that their final bottom line price or do you haggle over that price too?"
Sorry if you don't need the answer any more, but yes, you can haggle, and I saved a couple of grands this month by doing exactly that. Moreover, somewhere I came across a new "dealer's" definition what the "internet price" is: below MSRP but above invoice !?!
#406 of 687 Re: missing compartmen... [samnoe]
May 28, 2010 (11:47 am)
"Time for a re-re-design!! 2012 by any chance??"
Uh-oh... This forum is NOT about politics...
#407 of 687 Re: 2011 Sienna Limited FWD [DLu]
May 30, 2010 (7:52 am)
We are thinking about getting a limited also. Which dealer did you use for your deal? Also, what was the invoice $? How do you like it so far.
#408 of 687 Here is what I think Toyota did wrong with the 2011
May 30, 2010 (12:20 pm)
Here is my list of improvements I would like to see in the next update:
- Improve interior quality
- Bring back the comfortable 8th passenger seat
- Move back the interior lamp controls to dash ('04-10), why the heck place it on roof?
- Hidden rear wiper maybe cute, but almost worthless. Bring back the old one.
- Auto dimming exterior mirrors even in lower end models, not just on Limited
- Make power rear liftgate also available on LE/SE
- Illuminate the glove boxes (Camry is very good).
- Bring back storage bins in front doors (below armrest)
- Interior door pull handles similar to highlander, etc.
- Navigation should be Hard-Drive based.
- Built-in MP3 player, with a minimum of 20 gb hard drive.
- Standard Bluetooth is nice, but why limit imports to worthless 20 contacts??
- Add stowage below the middle row seats, like Chrysler's stow'n'go models features.
Otherwise, I think it is perfect.
Anyone to add to this list?
#409 of 687 Re: Here is what I think Toyota did wrong with the 2011 [samnoe]
May 31, 2010 (7:02 am)
Nice list, samnoe.
Here are some of my thoughts to add to your list.
When removing the second row seats, make the seat bases also easily removed. Leaving the current seat bases behind takes up too much room when cargo room is needed.
Push button start should be a low cost option, instead of a 4K+ premium pack item. Much lower cost vehicles now have this feature. (IIRC Ford Focus, etc.)
Lighted arrows in the outside rear view mirrors should be another low cost option, instead of only on the Limited. It is a real safety feature.
Another plea for better interior construction.
An option for a darker color interior, in addition to the current light grey and bisque selection.
Bring back the Blizzard Pearl color for the XLEs.
Better steering feel. Current van feels disconected from road, almost like driving on ice.
Quieter engine and cabin.