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#314 of 687 Re: Went with a 2010 Odyssey [mbenge]
Mar 20, 2010 (6:11 am)
Mbenge- I understand your thought process. I had a 2000 Odyssey that I was tired of and ready to move into something newer and more exciting. I had been anxiously waiting for the Sienna, however when I finally went down to the dealer to check it out there were small details that Toyota hadn't really though out well. When I hit my head while sitting in the 2nd row seats of the Sienna Limited (I'm only 6 feet tall) that was the end of the road. I could either wait patiently for the new Odyssey and hope that they didn't make similar mistakes, or I could go back and check out the 2010 Odyssey.
After reading about the 2010 Odyssey and the below invoice pricing deals currently in play I jumped on a 2010 Odyssey with nav and rear seat entertainment. It has been ten years since I bought my first Odyssey with no leather and absolutely no options for ~$32,0000 because dealers were charging several thousand over MSRP. I bought a fully loaded 2010 Odyssey ten years later for almost exactly the same price! Amazing.
I love the exterior looks of the Sienna and really wanted to have one to call my own, but alas it wasn't the right time.
#315 of 687 recliner seat limitations
Mar 20, 2010 (10:34 am)
While waiting for my car in service at my local Toyota dealer, to waste time, I decided to take a quick seat in the 2011 Sienna. I was really excited to sit in the big comfy looking barcalounger type seats.
I was really surprised to find out, upon sitting in the seat that my legs were too long for the extended footrest. I would have to flex my legs(I'm 5'11) for my feet to rest comfortably on the footrest. I tried making some minor adjustments to the seat position, but without any luck. I guess the seat is designed for passengers a lot shorter than myself.
#316 of 687 Re: Went with a 2010 Odyssey [fly2liv]
Mar 20, 2010 (9:52 pm)
Thanks for the affirmation... We didn't get quite the deal I wanted on the Odyssey. The nashville market is holding strong, but we were well under invoce, and the dealership provides some services that only the luxury guys usually do.
One other thing occured to me about the Sienna. The Antenna on the XLE and lower trims. What is up with that 1990's, Corolla-esq antenna. At least on the Corolla you could push it down. Another thing that is better on the Odyssey.
Mar 21, 2010 (5:19 am)
I went to Toyota dealer yesterday to test drive the Sienna, the ride is not as soft as I thought. One question I forgot to ask the sales guy was if the windshield wiper de-icer is standard on XLE, I remember the previous model has that feature.
#318 of 687 Re: Couldn't do it [wwest]
Mar 21, 2010 (6:03 am)
That just means the CHP believed him.
I'm sure the CHP would have felt differently if he knew this guy ran a porn web site, was bankrupt, had conducted fraud in the past, and owed Toyota $19,000.
#319 of 687 test drive results
Mar 26, 2010 (5:12 pm)
Test drove an XLE during a test drive event in LA downtown on last Sunday.
Got some gifts, but the parking is $8.00.
Comparing with my 2002 Odyssey :
The handling appears to be at the similar level (canít wait to test an SE).
The cargo space appears to be bigger.
The center base is acceptable to me. It looks like a booster seat with 2 cup holders on the floor.
The acceleration is not very impressive.
Short test drive, so thatís all I got to share.
Mar 26, 2010 (9:33 pm)
Finally drove a 2011 Sienna. I drove an LE 8 passenger. For background, I have an 07 Odyssey EX-L.
-Interior Dash Layout--love the 3.5 inch display, great place for trip computer info.
-Modern electronics--far better looking than the previous generation (which looked very dated and ugly)
-I'm fine with the dash materials
-Lots of room up front--felt very open and airy, even compared to the Odyssey
-Once up to speed, very quiet--very little wind and road news
-Suspenion dampened well--without feeling too soft
-Nice little details, like lighted cupholders
-Bluetooth even on LE
-Little disappointed in the powertrain-I remember it really feeling faster than the Ody in the previous gen--not so much this time. It IS quicker, but it doesn't feel as effortless and frankly it is pretty noisy--noisier than the Ody at full throttle.
-Steering. And ultimately, this is probably the deal breaker, at least for my wife. This thing has very, very loose steering at lower speeds. It just "feels" big--my wife remarked that it felt like she was driving a much larger vehicle and she didn't like it. The feelings were a bit artificial, with a lot of play. It took more concentration and effort to steer the car.
-The way its packaged. I've ranted aobut this before--can't get a DVD without buying premium package in MidAtlantic
-Fit and finish. In the car I drove, the cloth seat was misaligned with the base--so there was a big, ugly gap between the cloth and the hard plastic seat. Not good.
#321 of 687 Re: Test Drive [mfletou1]
Mar 27, 2010 (8:24 am)
I wonder if the curb weight has gone up, to dull the acceleration?
Steering on the SE is supposed to be better.
#322 of 687 Re: Test Drive [ateixeira]
Mar 27, 2010 (8:28 pm)
I think that is probably exactly what it is--higher curb weight. I haven't checked but that is what is logical. I can't explain the engine noise though--certainly noiser than the previous generation.
Unfortunately, the SE is only going to be available in that charcoal leatherette. We don't do dark interiors...beige or bust, baby! (Actually, grey is fine too unless it is really dark--the charcoal is really dark.)
I was at the Toyota dealership today getting my TCH dealt with and I talked to a sales manager about packaging. He said they are not allowed to order a vehicle configured differently than Central Atlantic Toyota offers, and that they can't go a dealer trade because the values are never equal. The best they can do is for you to buy a vehicle out of region and have it shipped to the local dealer, which I wouldn't do.
Sienna didn't see to be getting much traffic at either Toyota dealership I was at. One other person looking at it, but nothing compared to Prius/RAV4. Honda sold 12k Odys in Feb--up over '09--be interesting to see where Sienna comes in with a full first month. I've seen a fair number on the road, but then again I live in the minivan capital of the world.
#323 of 687 Re: Test Drive [ateixeira]
Mar 28, 2010 (3:52 pm)
Over 200HP in a FWD "soccer mom" minivan may mean DBW "mapping" may be used for partial engine derating/detuning in the lower gear ranges. Might not be so bad in the F/awd version wherein the low speed engine torque is more evenly distributed over the road surface.