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2011 Sienna by tsu670
Jun 08, 2009 (6:23 pm)
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It struck me odd that the 2010 Sienna is already arriving in dealer lots, and has been since the middle of May, 2009. Now I'm reading that the 2011 model will be built on the same platform as the Camry and others, and will start shipping from Princeton, Indiana in January of 2010.
 
Any able to validate or elaborate? Thanx. -Ken
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Re: 2011 Sienna [tsu670] by tsu670
Jun 09, 2009 (3:55 pm)
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Replying to: tsu670 (Jun 08, 2009 6:23 pm)

Ok, after bouncing around on the Internet, I now have a theory on what's going on (and a dealer friend of mine can't say officially that I'm right, but he wouldn't dispute it either).
 
The new redesigned '11 Sienna will be based on the MC platform that is also used for Camry, Highlander and others, and will go into production this coming January. It appears the 2010 Honda Odyssey will also be revamped, and it will be available this coming September.
 
I've always admired Toyota for their marketing prowess, so my guess is they plan to trump the redesigned 2010 Odyssey with their also redesigned Sienna by bringing out a 2011 model only four months after Honda debuts their 2010.
 
This may explain why the '09 and '10 model years are so short. I'm thinking they did it this way because two short years are better than a very long 2009 run with a 2010 model coming four months after Honda's 2010. And who could resist buying a 2011 model in the winter of 2010 knowing that it will be good for perhaps 19 months?
 
My speculation, then, is that the redesigned 2011 Sienna was originally designed to be a 2010, but someone determined they couldn't pull it off in time, so they decided to change the '09 and '10 production schedules the way they did so Honda wouldn't get a whole year's advantage on their redesigned Odyssey.
 
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Re: 2011 Sienna [tsu670] by bmwk75s
Jun 10, 2009 (7:52 am)
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Replying to: tsu670 (Jun 09, 2009 3:55 pm)

If we're going to see the new Sienna based on the MC Platform, then we can expect a hybrid sometime after the release. That would certainly fit with the announcement from Masatami Takimoto, Toyota's VP in charge of powertrain development that by 2020, hybrids will be the standard drivetrain and account for "100 percent" of Toyota's cars as they would be no more expensive to produce than a conventional vehicle.
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Re: 2011 Sienna [tsu670] by ateixeira
Jun 17, 2009 (8:02 am)
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Replying to: tsu670 (Jun 09, 2009 3:55 pm)

Perhaps the delay was even intentional.
 
I remember reading that they delayed the Corolla when they saw the latest Civic.
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Re: 2011 Sienna [bmwk75s] by ateixeira
Jun 17, 2009 (8:03 am)
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Replying to: bmwk75s (Jun 10, 2009 7:52 am)

Maybe - the minivan segment keeps shrinking, so you wonder if Toyota will invest in a segment when diminishing returns are virtually guaranteed.
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Re: 2011 Sienna [ateixeira] by hause7
Jun 17, 2009 (11:16 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 17, 2009 8:03 am)

Actually I just read that Toyota will be boosting production of the Sienna along with the Camry, Corolla, Rav4, Tacoma, and Tundra I think. The Sienna was one of the top selling models for them this past selling period I guess. here's a link. http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2009/06/04/464447.html
 
I am sure they will invest in the Sienna to keep it competitive.
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Re: 2011 Sienna [bmwk75s] by wwest
Jun 18, 2009 (9:36 am)
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Replying to: bmwk75s (Jun 10, 2009 7:52 am)

By 2011 I would expect to see the new Venza I4(***) and the Venza F/awd system adopted by the Sienna, maybe even with a CVT.
 
*** Upgraded to DFI..??
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Re: 2011 Sienna [hause7] by ateixeira
Jun 18, 2009 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: hause7 (Jun 17, 2009 11:16 pm)

Sounds pretty optimistic to me. It's good for buyers though, because if they ramp up production and demand doesn't follow, we see incentives and good prices.
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Re: 2011 Sienna [ateixeira] by dbt
Jun 18, 2009 (11:14 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 17, 2009 8:02 am)

Redesign for Odyssey should be for MY 2011 (Calendar year 2010). Sienna will probably beat it to market by 7-8 months.
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- by dudleyr
Jun 22, 2009 (1:45 pm)
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Would love to see an I4 Sienna. That 2.7 in the Venza is quite strong and if they dropped weight by a little combined with a lighter powertrain things should be fine. My 220 hp Sienna is more power than I need and I would appreciate Venza like economy. 21/29 for the I4 is pretty good. Probably 20/27 for the Sienna though, but still a nice improvement. May even be more nimble with less weight in the nose.

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