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61 messages, Last post on Dec 08, 2009 at 7:14 PM
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Replying to: yatesjo (Dec 04, 2009 11:09 pm) 
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 05, 2009 5:10 am) |
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Replying to: berri (Dec 07, 2009 9:21 am) |
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Replying to: berri (Dec 07, 2009 9:21 am) I don't think most drivers will be satisfied with the 4 cyl version. I have been known to be wrong before. |
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would it be unreasonable to assume that the pricing will be negotiable for 2001 in Feb when the car come to the dealers? i.e. would they expect the full MSRP or would they be willing to let the car go for a little or invoice + Tax Title and Reg ? I am considering the minivan and would think that it might be best to hold off till the 2011 comes out...
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Replying to: inspectoring (Dec 07, 2009 1:39 pm) First by February the 2010 vans will be leftovers- I would expect they've already shut off production of the 2010 model if the 2011s are to make it into showrooms by Feb. That means while deals may be good, the selection won't be. Second, The end of December closes both the quarter and the year They are looking at their numbers and thinking about how many more deals they need to hit their goals and may be willing to come down just a bit more to score that sale. Start negotiating with multiple dealers online now and be ready to close by the end of the month and you maybe able to get something below invoice + title & reg. |
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Replying to: inspectoring (Dec 07, 2009 1:39 pm) |
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Replying to: berri (Dec 07, 2009 9:21 am) The engine is the same 266hp version in today's van. Mileage is already best-in-class so perhaps we're expecting a bit too much? Remember the HP advantage over competitors.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 08, 2009 11:17 am) Well, no. The only DI Lexus is the GS series and it uses a combination of SFE and DI. Toyota is for some reason just simply S..l....o......w to adapt their engines to this new DFI technology. The HSD engines now have e/VVT-i, Extended VVT-i, a Toyota exclusive for the moment, but not DFI. Using e/VVT-i the engines can be run in Otto mode, 15:1 static compression ratio (12:1 w/DFI) for simply "cruisng", light engine loading. Under heavy engine loading, WOT, the engine mode is shifted to the Atkinson cycle, effective CR or 10:1(12:1 DFI). Makes no, little, sense. "..The engine has the same 266hp in today's van..." Your point being....?? With DFI the engine could be downsized in displacement by as much as 10-15% and still have 266HP, REAL gain in FE. Downsize AND adapt the engines to/for DFI and e/VVT-i and hwy FE would increase by maybe 20% "....expecting a bit too much..." Not when the technology is already available and in current use and the "future" price of fuel is so highly in doubt. Why is it that the F/awd Venza is available with the new I4 but not the HL or Sienna...?? The weight is about the same for all three. Marketing 101...?? |
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| I have a 2000 Toyota Sienna with 50,000 miles on it. My question is, do headlights that still work ever need to be replaced due to loss of light intensity? It seems to me that they aren't as bright as they were when the vehicle was new. Of course, at age 68, I'm not as bright as I used to be either. Does anyone have any ideas regarding the need to replace headlights simply because of their age? | |
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