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Memories Of The Old GM And Its Cars

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Save U.S. tax dollars and GM by tmclaughlin
Jun 19, 2009 (9:50 am)
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The GMC truck division should not continue as a part of GM. GM and the US government have one chance to get the reinvention of the new GM right and avoid continued government and taxpayer support.
 
Domestic and import full-size truck and SUV sales are declining with fuel economy concerns, so manufacturing two of the same brand is not a profitable long-term business model. Chevrolet and GMC trucks and SUVs are essentially the same vehicles. Chevrolet models cost less, have equal or better quality and fuel economy, and outsell GMC models more than three to one. Toyota and other imports don't manufacture two of the same full-size vehicles under different brand names; it does not make sense, economically, for GM to continue producing both GMC and Chevrolet.
 
Advocates who hope to keep GMC as the auto industry changes to more fuel-efficient models want to continue a business strategy that will ultimately be as unprofitable as the now defunct brands of Hummer, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Saturn, and Saab.
 
Follow the import business model, eliminate GMC now, and save the costs associated with the extra GMC manufacturing processes and distribution channels, which will not be part of a long-term solution. The new GM will be more profitable going forward without GMC if Chevrolet produces and sells all of GM's full-size trucks and SUVs.
 
GM won't need government and taxpayer support again if GMC is eliminated now.
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GMC by tomcatt630
Jun 22, 2009 (9:03 am)
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GMC makes $$$, so as an 'owner' per the bailout, I say it stays.
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Re: GMC [tomcatt630] by andre1969
Jun 23, 2009 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: tomcatt630 (Jun 22, 2009 9:03 am)

I actually prefer the styling of the GMC line, for the most part, compared to Chevy trucks. It's not as noticeable with the Yukon and Tahoe/Avalanche, but with the regular trucks I much prefer the look of the GMC to the Chevy. I felt the same way about the previous model, too. The GMC Sierra looked nice and sleek, I thought, whereas the Silverado had that "angry appliance" look going on.
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Re: GMC [andre1969] by lemko
Jun 23, 2009 (9:09 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 23, 2009 7:26 am)

Here's a case where I definately think the GMC truck is nicer looking:
 

 
1969 Chevrolet truck
 

 
1969 GMC truck
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Re: GMC [lemko] by andre1969
Jun 23, 2009 (9:46 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jun 23, 2009 9:09 am)

Those are both good looking trucks, but yeah, I much prefer the GMC.
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Re: GMC [andre1969] by steve_ HOST
Jun 23, 2009 (11:22 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 23, 2009 9:46 am)

Too much liftover height. Even if the GMC wasn't jacked up, the stepside is way handy.
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. by fintail
Jun 23, 2009 (12:33 pm)
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Oh, the memories
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_cpNDC2i3E (2 parts)
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Re: . [fintail] by dieselone
Jun 23, 2009 (6:48 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jun 23, 2009 12:33 pm)

And very little in those videos worth remembering.
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X cars by tomcatt630
Jun 24, 2009 (7:59 am)
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GM's old RWD cars were proven and tested, but the new FWD cars in the 80's were rush jobs with bugs galore.
The old X body Novas would run forever, but FWD X's died early.
 
By the time these cars were more reliable, they looked ancient. Compare an 80's Taurus to a Celebrity, or even a '90 Lumina to see who was design king then.

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