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Memories Of The Old GM And Its Cars

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Re: now they have a 3.0 V6 and the 3.6 VVT [fintail] by dieselone
Jun 16, 2009 (11:04 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jun 16, 2009 10:56 am)

opposed to the horrible noises made by the 2.8-3.1 family.
 
Never had much experience with those you mentioned, but did with the 3.4. All I can say is it was much better than the 3.0L v6 vulcan Ford kept around 20 years to long. My wife had an 03 Taurus after her 01 Impala. That had to be the slowest car I've in a long, long time. Any acceleration required foot to the floor, have the a/c on, better turn it off if you wanted to merge on to an expressway without getting killed. Gas mileage was unimpressive too. Guess I should have asked Motorcity if I can mention Ford. Oh well.
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Re: Memories of the "Old" GM [almatti] by rmanke
Jun 16, 2009 (11:08 am)
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Replying to: almatti (Jun 16, 2009 8:35 am)

Almatti's memory of learning to drive in a '66 Impala resurrected a memory of my own. I received my license in '66 and although about 70% of my driving was done in my parents' old '58 Ford retractable hardtop (332 ci w/Cruisomatic), about 30% was done in my folks new '66 Olds Delta with a 365HP (gross), 425ci engine. For it's time, it was very powerful. One day my dad was looking at the rear tires and noticed there were "strings" of rubber hanging off of the edges of the tread and he said -
"boy, are these ever cheap tires." Although I was tempted, I didn't dare tell him there was no problem with tires, rather, that car could "lay" 50 to 100 feet of rubber when I floored the accelerator at stop lights and I proved it far too often.
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Re: Memories of the "Old" GM [rmanke] by andre1969
Jun 16, 2009 (11:17 am)
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Replying to: rmanke (Jun 16, 2009 11:08 am)

My cousin's ex-wife drives a '65 or '66 Olds 88. Can't remember if it's a Delta or one of the other 88's. Big silvery-green 4-door hardtop, in pretty good shape for its age. I think it has a 425. Nice looking car.
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Re: now they have a 3.0 V6 and the 3.6 VVT [dieselone] by fintail
Jun 16, 2009 (11:19 am)
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Replying to: dieselone (Jun 16, 2009 11:04 am)

I think those smaller engines are called popcorn poppers from hell, or something like that ...a very loud coarse tone. Most often seen in cars from the late 80s-early 90s.
 
My mother, uncle, and grandmother all had Taurii with that old lump, so I know what you mean. Slow, not efficient, not quiet - a big reason why American cars have an unrefined rep. I think it might have been you who compared the refinement of that unit to a garbage disposal...pretty much spot-on.
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Re: Memories of the "Old" GM [andre1969] by isellhondas
Jun 16, 2009 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 16, 2009 9:34 am)

You know, Andre, I think you're right on that. That '66 283 probably did have a Powerglide. I can look it up later.
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Memories by dieselone
Jun 16, 2009 (11:29 am)
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Being that I was a teenager in the 80's, it certainly was interesting time for cars. Grew up on crappy detroit 4 cylinder's but there were a few cars worth remembering. For the most part, even back then, I didn't like GM vehicles as I usually preferred Ford's, but a few did stand out IMO.
 
A buddy of mine in high school had a '86 or '87 Buick Regal T-Type with the turbo 3.8. That was a great car to drive in a straight line and not have to stop quickly, but it looked cool, was fast, but like many, got stolen. I miss the pseudo luxury sport coupe market, with cars like the Monte Carlo SS, Cutlass, Regal (rear drives with turbo v6 or 305-307 v8, T-Bird, and Cougar etc.
 
Another HS buddy had a '87 Fiero GT, another car that eventually turned out to be pretty good. It was fun to drive and looked cool and was decently quick for the time.
 
My uncle had a new '87 Monte Carlo SS, 305 with headers all the emission crap removed, chipped, after market rims etc (can't remember all that he did to it). It was silver with excessively tinted windows, and all decals and pin striping removed except for the SS decal on the side. It was very sharp, sounded good and he used to let me take it out on Friday nights. Had lots of fun in that car.
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Re: now they have a 3.0 V6 and the 3.6 VVT [fintail] by dieselone
Jun 16, 2009 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jun 16, 2009 11:19 am)

My mother, uncle, and grandmother all had Taurii with that old lump, so I know what you mean. Slow, not efficient, not quiet - a big reason why American cars have an unrefined rep. I think it might have been you who compared the refinement of that unit to a garbage disposal...pretty much spot-on.
 
That reminds me. The parents of a girlfriend in HS had an 87 Taurus with the 2.5 4cyl auto. Now that was the slowest car I've ever driven. I can't think of a much worse combo than a crude under powered 4cyl stuck in a family sized car. To think, the 3.0 Vulcan v6 could be considered and upgrade and it was. Oh the horror and and customers lost forever.
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Re: now they have a 3.0 V6 and the 3.6 VVT [dieselone] by fintail
Jun 16, 2009 (11:44 am)
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Replying to: dieselone (Jun 16, 2009 11:35 am)

I remember I knew someone who's mother had a 4cyl Cutlass Ciera...how could that have been a good idea? Probably a good competitor for that Taurus.
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Olds 88's by tomcatt630
Jun 16, 2009 (11:51 am)
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Before 1969, the Olds 88 had many different prefixes: Delmont, Dynamic, Holiday, Super, Rocket, Jetstar, Delta [others?].
 
Delta 88 became the prominant name in '69, until 1989, then was simply called 'Eighty-Eight'.
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Re: now they have a 3.0 V6 and the 3.6 VVT [fintail] by berri
Jun 16, 2009 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jun 16, 2009 11:44 am)

I remember I knew someone who's mother had a 4cyl Cutlass Ciera...how could that have been a good idea?
 
I had one and it was probably the worst quality car we ever owned, plus GM dealers could never fix it right when the numerous things broke. The other two bad cars I owned were a 99 Ford Explorer and a 71 Plymouth Sebring. So I guess I covered all the Big 3 bases. Unfortunately, even the better D3 vehicles we owned were noticeably inferior to Toyota and Honda. I hope that will turn around because I like choice, differentiation and competition.

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