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Memories Of The Old GM And Its Cars

383 messages,  Last post on Nov 12, 2009 at 5:33 PM

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Re: Buy a Cadillac DTS... [dave8697] by lemko
Jun 03, 2009 (1:56 pm)
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jun 03, 2009 1:33 pm)

There was also the Syclone and Typhoon - two trucks that were faster than a Ferrari!
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Re: Buy a Cadillac DTS... [lemko] by circlew
Jun 03, 2009 (2:00 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Jun 03, 2009 1:56 pm)

two trucks that were faster than a Ferrari!

Until the first turn and the 2 hit the wall and detonated while the Ferrari blew past!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Buy a Cadillac DTS... [dave8697] by dieselone
Jun 03, 2009 (2:38 pm)
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Trucks that got 13 mpg at 120 mph and rode quieter than M30's
 
Now I know you're pulling crap out of thin air!
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Re: Buy a Cadillac DTS... [lemko] by dieselone
Jun 03, 2009 (2:47 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Jun 03, 2009 1:56 pm)

There was also the Syclone and Typhoon
 
Another example of wasted money. Yeah, they were quick, but a death wish on anything but a straight line. Made a pretty useless truck too. I think it was C & D that did the Ferrari comparison, it also was quicker than a vette too.
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Re: Buy a Cadillac DTS... [dave8697] by dieselone
Jun 03, 2009 (2:55 pm)
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jun 03, 2009 1:33 pm)

Buick Topped Lexus in initial quality in '96
 
LOL, comparing a '96 Buick to a '96 Lexus in anyway is laughable. So what if it had higher initial quality, a Buick of that vintage was light years behind in NVH, features, design and technology. Those Century's were sure cutting edge and so desirable. LOL
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Re: Buy a Cadillac DTS... [dieselone] by andre1969
Jun 03, 2009 (3:17 pm)
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Replying to: dieselone (Jun 03, 2009 2:55 pm)

Those Century's were sure cutting edge and so desirable. LOL
 
Well with any luck they were durable, at least. After all, by that time they had 15 years to figure out how to build them!
 
Actually some of Buick's more serious efforts of that time, like the LeSabre, Park Ave, Riv, and Roadmaster, were probably pretty good cars. Not cutting-edge, and not up to an LS400 by any stretch of the imagination, but they also came in at a much lower price point.
 
While I think they're clumsy looking as hell, I wouldn't mind getting a '96 RoadhazzardMaster. Nice, comfy car that, for its size, performs and handles well, and even gets fairly decent fuel economy.
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Re: Buy a Cadillac DTS... [andre1969] by dieselone
Jun 03, 2009 (3:28 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 03, 2009 3:17 pm)

While I think they're clumsy looking as hell, I wouldn't mind getting a '96 RoadhazzardMaster. Nice, comfy car that, for its size, performs and handles well, and even gets fairly decent fuel economy.
 
The '96 would be the one to get with the LT1 350. My Grandpa had a '92 Roadmaster with the anemic 180hp 5.7. It was slow and a gas pig. My dad had a '92 Crown Vic at the time and I like it much better. Ford's OHC 4.6 was much smoother and quieter, it handled much better (the steering in the Buick was horridly light and numb), had better brakes (RM had rear drums, I think they might have added rear disks by '96)), and got better fuel economy. The only thing I really liked about the Roadmaster were the seats. They were comfy, front and back. Also, grandpa started having trouble with the Roadmaster near 100k, A/C and trans. Dad's Crown Vic went to 230k relatively trouble free.
 
Grandpa traded the Roadmaster in on a '97 Park Ave and it along the the '00 he also had were noticeably built worse than the Roadmaster, both of those Park Ave's had to many problems to list. After grandpa passed, the '00 ended up going to my dad. He hated it and kept his '00 Taurus and gave the PA to my sister. Who also hated it but needed a free car to get through college. After her experience with it, she may never buy another domestic.
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Re: Buy a Cadillac DTS... [dieselone] by dave8697
Jun 03, 2009 (4:30 pm)
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Replying to: dieselone (Jun 03, 2009 2:47 pm)

Another example of wasted money. Yeah, they were quick, but a death wish on anything but a straight line. Made a pretty useless truck too. I think it was C & D that did the Ferrari comparison, it also was quicker than a vette too.
 
About how you would sum up a '72 442, except today they are worth $41,999.
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Re: Buy a Cadillac DTS... [dieselone] by dave8697
Jun 03, 2009 (4:37 pm)
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Replying to: dieselone (Jun 03, 2009 3:28 pm)

The '96 would be the one to get with the LT1 350. My Grandpa had a '92 Roadmaster with the anemic 180hp 5.7. It was slow and a gas pig.
 
I know two people driving RM's. One has a '93 and a '96. They score 21-22 hwy mpg or more. Interstate cruisers running 1700 rpm in the left lane. Quiet and trouble free at 17 and 14 yrs old. You can't feel or hear the semi your passing.
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Re: Buy a Cadillac DTS... [dave8697] by andre1969
Jun 03, 2009 (4:52 pm)
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jun 03, 2009 4:37 pm)

I know two people driving RM's. One has a '93 and a '96. They score 21-22 hwy mpg or more. Interstate cruisers running 1700 rpm in the left lane.
 
So what you're saying is that they're great cars for left-lane camping? Just ribbing ya. Actually, I toyed with the idea of buying a black '92 last year. It was really low mileage and in excellent condition. And while they're not that fast with the older 180 hp TBI 350, they'll still get from 0-60 in just a click under 10 seconds. Prior to that, I think the last time a GM B-body would've scooted to 60 that fast would've been around 1978-79, unless you got an ex-police car with the 350.
 
So while I'd prefer the '94-96 with the 260 hp LT1, I could probably be happy with an earlier model with the 180 hp TBI.

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