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Oct 25, 2011 (2:35 pm)
Just got a chance to read "Willie's Workbench" in the December issue of Four Wheeler.
Stabilizer or Damper, I want a follow-up to the last sentence. How long did it really last.
Brand new the front end felt like a monoblock of steel. Guessing after 10k miles it started feeling loose but how can you tell. It's like shocks, a gradual decline like the frog in a cold pot of water over the fire.
Thinking of removing the paid-for new factory stabilizer that replaced the bil stine that replaced the original tokico that I threw away. Thinking of putting the bil stine back on. Have had people ask me about their front ends and mine. Some know me and some in other states see the screaminlizard and tribe decals.
Have the lifetime $50 deductible warranty(maybe that's why Sean sent me back to the dealer when I was mad enough to drink from the cup of dexcool and get on with my remaining years).
I do spend multiples of less time with this wrangler than with that rubber timing belted foreign diesel of a crd liberty. Like I posted a very long time ago, just a few more dollars up front to build quality vs wear the customer down with fixes until they trade it in or empty their pockets with aftermarket. Same darn love hate affair as the crd but the jk does have a frame and better aftermarket replacement parts to build it as it should've been built.
I've had front dif grease puke twice and also leak out from that cheap pressed in pin that the breather tube attaches to. Forgot to lube the door gasket and a few drips got better_half damp. Tranny cooler (now mopar has one) and wrapped crossover tube to keep fluid cool. Tranny leak fixed by local dealer (and not the fancy other side of metroplex dealer). Headlights are just good enough. Plastic clips on the ebrake and transfer cables. Smaller lighter tires than factory rubicon and haven't sleeved the axle tubes or welded on gussets. We all know the routine. But jeep wrangler means real jeep and even if it rusts away its' driveline should be able to take you to hell and back. Sitting on the edge, looking at aftermarket prices, to be or not to be...
Oct 26, 2011 (12:58 pm)
Took time last night to read another mag that came in a while back-Jp (Nov. 2011).
Inside was the statement of circulation-should've renewed all my sourcelink subscriptions.
Page 91 "Unfortunately, I sold that CJ-6 years ago..."
A relative, upon seeing the rubicon a while back for the first time from a distance, thought it was better_half's H3. Both are blue and have the seven grill slots. He lamented the fact that the jeep he had years ago and sold, is still being driven (now by someone else).
I was once told to keep my first real jeep. I do wish necessity would have let me keep some of my old new to me back then detroit iron. Of course, driving around town today doing errands with the freedom top on but the windows down not speeding anywhere just enjoying the moment might have been the finishing touch.
#38 of 55 Re: 2007 Jeep Wrangler DEATH WOBBLE.....good news FINALLY =) [mrpmeii]
Nov 21, 2011 (9:14 pm)
I am having the same problem, changed the shocks, the stabilizer, put tires on it, rotated and balanced them and still the "Death Wobble". I am also willing to record it and send to a local news if they don't do anything to help me. I have a 2007 jeep wrangler unlimited and it has been doing it the last 2 years. I have almost got into many accidents and can kill myself or anyone else out there. I think that they are waiting for some car pile up or for someone to die. Seriously, this car problem should be a recall. It is horrible. I want in if anyone wants to sue them or go public, thanks vikki
#39 of 55 Death Wobble or Front Shaking "ARE THEY WAITING FOR A DEATH ON OUR HWY"
Nov 22, 2011 (7:51 am)
If anyone out there is having death wobble or really bad shaking in the front near the the wheels that feels like your tires are out of control or going to fall out, please report a complaint to the NHTSA, "national highway traffic safety association at (888)327-4236 so that they can be aware of this dangerous problem. What are they waiting for a death to occur to actually make the problem on the car a recall. Sad at it seems, must complain, they put you on a list so when it actually becomes a recall you will get contacted and the NHTSA actually contacts the manufacture and lets them know the problem. Enough of these calls someone might start listening it take 10 minutes only. If you been like the lots of other people and myself that has bought tires, rotated tires, changed the shocks, changed the stabilizer trying to fix the problem, then call jeep manufacture at 1(877)426-5337 and let them know that the front is shaking, and your having the death wobble. I called jeep yesterday and they gave me no answers, today I called got a someone that discussed expired warranty and somehow my phone disconnected. I called back 5 minutes later, new lady better attitude that got me on a case file and waiting for a return call back within 24 hours. If anyone out there has the next step to this problem or has a class action law suit going on, email me: Hanniah_33yahoo.com
#40 of 55 Re: Jeep wheel wobble [walleye6]
Nov 22, 2011 (8:02 am)
Yes I have its horrible. I have put new tires, changed shocks, changed stabilizer, rotated and balanced car and the problems is so bad that I am unable to drive my car. lets exchange info so jeep does not play games that they have no idea what is going on. email: hanniah_33yahoo.com
File a complaint with the NHTSA at 1(888)327-4236, then call the jeep manufacture and hang up if they don't help you, call back new customer service until they give you a case number. I hear from another person it is there responsibility and they should diagnose and fix at no charge. I am still waiting for a call back. Just called them, they have 24 hour to call back. Also, i am not afraid to get an attorney or go public. Give me your input, two is better than one. Try to get others info, so am I thanks vikki
#41 of 55 Re: 2007 Jeep Wrangler DEATH WOBBLE.....good news FINALLY =) [vikings0101]
Nov 22, 2011 (8:14 am)
I called the number, they gave me a warranty story. I called back 5 mins later, spoke to someone that opened up a case for me. They have 24 to call back, I have a case that's opened now. I also reported it with the NHTSA (888)327-4236 and they say that they mention problem to manufacture and if there is a recall they will contact me. I changed my tires, changed stabilizer, changed shocks, rotated and balanced my tires and the car is worse than ever and now unable to drive it at all. I took it to 4-5 mechanics and no one has an idea, the last mechanic told me it was the "Death Wobble" and all over the internet. What did they do for you? We should exchange info so that Jeep plays no games with its customers, thanks vikki
#42 of 55 Re: 2007 Jeep Wrangler DEATH WOBBLE.....good news FINALLY =) [hanniah]
Nov 28, 2011 (9:17 am)
I have an 08 Wrangler with the same issue. I also called NHTSA and received an ODI number.
#43 of 55 Re: Death Wobble - Caused by worn TRACK BAR [jeepguy19701]
Dec 04, 2011 (5:55 pm)
I can relate to everything you describe. My first jeep was a 1994 Jeep Wrangler Renegade....I ordered it brand new and kept it until 2008. I loved that Jeep but needed a newer model. I never had any problems with it, changed the battery every few years, and replaced the radiator. I put 160,000 miles on the engine. I traded it in on a 2005 Rubicon that had 14,000 miles on it. About six months after I got the Rubicon as I was driving down the road the front end started shaking violently, thought I had a front tire blow out, so I eased it to the side of the road. I got out expecting a flat tire, but everything was fine. I got back in the Jeep and continued mission. Didn't think twice about it.....then it happened again a few weeks later, it started shaking so bad my elbows and wrists started hurting as I tried to gain control of the vehicle. Soon it became common and I just decided that my jeep had seizures. I took it to the dealership and they could not replicate the problem. I have replaced most of the front end components.....and the problem still exists. Always occurs around the 50 mph range. If I drop below 50 or increase speed above 50 it will level off. I was so ticked off one time when the "wobble" kicked in........I just braced myself and decided to ride it out at 50 until it stopped, or the tires fell off. The wobble won out....thought I was going to have to go see a chiropracter. My wife never believed me because it never happened when someone was with me. She had to drive it one day.......almost crapped in her pants when it happened.....it was that bad.
I like my jeep to much to get rid of it......maybe someday there will be a recall, just hope no one gets injured or killed for it to happen.
#44 of 55 Re: Death Wobble - Caused by worn TRACK BAR [claymore53]
Dec 05, 2011 (1:19 pm)
I traded it in on a 2005 Rubicon that had 14,000 miles on it. About six months after I got the Rubicon as I was driving down the road the front end started shaking violently.................I have replaced most of the front end components.....My wife never believed me because it never happened when someone was with me.
So for six months it was fine, then the wobble appeared, which would suggest that as is the case with all TJs, it's a wear rather than an design issue, .
You've replaced most of the front end components, but I'm guessing you haven't yet hit on the one joint or bearing that's triggering the issue.
It doesn't happen when someone is with you, suggesting that a balanced load supresses the tendency, so I'll take a guess that the worn item is on the passenger side (50% chance of being correct anyway )
However, I guarantee you that there will never be a recall for this issue on TJs.
It's not an uncommon issue on these models, but it's always associated with worn components and/or a lift.
On the other hand, Jeep are starting to take the same issue on JKs more seriously as it's a design problem.