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Isuzu Rodeo Frame Rust

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#14 of 435 97 Rodeo Frame repair/overhaul/re-intro duction by cdnoverhaul

Jul 12, 2009 (4:43 am)

I would like to know if you could suggest a source of supply for the front frame cross member for a 1997 Isuzu rodeo. The Rad support went, and the front cross member seems "crispy" and in need of replacement by welding in a new one if practical. Who could provide a new one?
 
Any help or ideas would be very much appreciated.. I have the 1997 and we shipped a 2001 overseas. I like the 1997 with its off road capibility and especially handling like a car in a turn hands down over the 2001. I think Isusz got it right when they made the 1997/96 improvements especially with the lower centre of gravity and leaf sprigs for handing and off road. Producing the new body style to be like everyone else was a mistake and I believe there is still a lot of potential in the 96/97 with some of the later improvements that would not effect the 97 body style.
 
I don’t think having Rodeos under GM to effectively compete with their small Jimmy s and blazers did the Rodeo future plans any favor and it seems to make more sense to have Isuzu to go back to the 97 body style that worked rather go to another body style and then drop it entirely. Good products die when management is not watching & thinking (doing both at the same time but no gum allowed!)
 
Also from the armoured vehicle world/up armoured, the Ford chassis (F 550) are liked for their handling (as used on the Gurkha), but the Rodeo and Isuzu in general while nice could use heavier members in the otherwise. No, the Rodeo is not meant to be a F550- class by any stretch of the imagination nor is my 97 Rodeo, but my point is that a more substantial frame in the 97 body style would make one hell of a general purpose truck /SUV/off road on the civilian market .
 
Making a “baby Gurkha” by Armet, would be well one hell of a vehicle in a smaller more practical class in the market out there.
 
Any die hard Isuzu re-builders out there, or military vehicle re builders with some ideas?
 
By the way, I saw a great picture. The Chinese military industry had taken a newer Rodeo that they liked, cut a hole in the roof and mounted a ring mount with a PKM machine gun (beats a sun roof any day, great for traffic jams and keeping the squirrels out of the bird feeder)!
 
All the best!
 
Christopher
 
P.S .I buying a replacement rad support. Are there good ones and bad ones out there?

#15 of 435 Re: Rusted 1997 Rodeo [hbriggs] by bru75

Jul 21, 2009 (6:14 pm)

Replying to: hbriggs (Jul 10, 2009 1:12 pm)
me and my wife bought a 2001 isuzu rodeo 4 years ago last year i brought to a mech 4 the front bearing to be fixed when on the lift i noticed the rear stabalizer bar on drivers side had completly rotted off.then we inspected the whole frame and the whole frame was junk.still have a year of payments left on this pos.sad because the car only has 85.000miles and the rest of it pretty much flawless.havent driven since last year oct 2008.and welding company said only way to fix is find another piece of the rear frame.only if isuzu was like toyota and owned up to thier mistakes. toyota had same probs so they bought back all 1996 to 200? tacomas because of thier bad weld jobs on the frames.just like the isuzu.yhanks 4 listening 2 my probs

#16 of 435 Re: Rusted 1997 Rodeo [bru75] by howardru

Jul 22, 2009 (7:57 pm)

Replying to: bru75 (Jul 21, 2009 6:14 pm)
See my post on the Isuzu Axiom message board here. They use the same frame.

#17 of 435 Re: rotted frame [screwedagain] by marinaky

Jul 26, 2009 (1:57 pm)

Replying to: screwedagain (Jun 26, 2009 12:49 pm)
ATTENTION ALL HONDA PASSPORT OWNERS, THERE IS NOW AN FEDERAL INVESTIGATION OPEN INTO OUR PROBLEM. If you have not received this e-mail from Mr. Rinehardt, then copy this letter, answer the questions and send photos and mail it to him. I am doing certified mail to ensure receipt of this. If you go further into the carcomplaints site, you will see the letter actually mailed to Isuzu and Honda. They are investigating with a possible recall for this vehicles. YES, WE HAVE BEEN HEARD!!
Please do this asap, as the more info Mr. Rinehardt gets, the better our case is for a recall for these Rodeos and Passports. Contact me if you have questions. M
 
Dear Mr. L......,
 
My name is Derek Rinehardt. I am a federal investigator with the
Department of Transportation in Washington, D.C. We are conducting a
formal investigation of 1998 through 2002 model year Isuzu Rodeo / Honda
Passport vehicles for a potential safety related defect involving the
rear suspension lower link components separating from the frame due to
corrosion.
 
Thank you for filing a complaint with us in April. It is helpful to our
investigation. As we gather more details it is sometimes necessary to
contact the complainants for additional information.
 
Your complaint suggests that your vehicle may have experienced the
condition we are investigating. If you wouldn't mind, please answer the
questions below (even if you no longer the vehicle) to supplement the
information you have already provided us. The questions may seem trivial
and some may be redundant to your complaint but are very important to
us.
 
1. If you did not provide the VIN of your vehicle with your
complaint please do so.
 
2. Are you the original owner?
 
a) When was the vehicle purchased?
 
b) Has the vehicle been primarily driven in you current state of
residence?
 
3. What was the date of the incident?
 
4. Were you the driver of the vehicle when the incident occurred?
 
a) Were there other passengers in the vehicle at the time of the
incident?
 
5. Please describe in detail the specific occurrence when you
became aware that the lower link failed in your vehicle.
 
6. Please also answer the following to supplement the prior
information you have provided.
 
a) Approximately what time did the incident occur?
 
b) What were the weather conditions at the time of the incident?
 
c) Warning Signs:
 
i) Were there any warning signs alerting you to an impending issue
with your vehicle?
 
ii) If there were warning signs please describe the warning signs.
(i.e. noise, etc.)
 
iii) How long prior to the failure did you notice the warning signs?
 
d) Which component failed (right or left)?
 
e) How many miles were on your vehicle at the time of the failure?
 
f) How fast were you traveling when the failure occurred?
 
g) What type of road were you traveling on (i.e. two lane road,
highway, residential street, etc)?
 
i) If you recall the exact location please provide that information
(for example the intersection of ABC Street and XYZ lane)
 
h) What were the traffic conditions? (light, moderate, heavy)
 
i) Were you able to maneuver the vehicle to the side of the road?
 
i) Was your vehicle stranded in a lane of traffic?
 
j) If the vehicle was left inoperable did the vehicle require
towing?
 
i) How long did it take for a tow truck to arrive? Where was the
vehicle towed?
 
k) At the time of the incident were you using your vehicle to tow a
boat, trailer, etc.?
 
7. Has the issue been corrected on your vehicle? If so how was it
corrected?
 
8. Did you report the issue to Isuzu / Honda? If so what did Isuzu
/ Honda say in their response to you?
 
Also, please feel free to add any additional relevant information
(including pictures). Thank you again for filing your complaint and
contributing to our investigation.
 
Best Regards,
 
Derek L. Rinehardt
Safety Defects Engineer / Federal Investigator
U.S Department of Transportation
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
Office of Defects Investigation, Vehicle Controls Division
1200 New Jersey Ave, SE
W48-219, NVS-213
Washington, DC 20590
Office: (202) 366-3642, (877) 536-8368 x63642
Fax: (202) 366-1767

#19 of 435 NHTSA Letter by howardru

Jul 27, 2009 (6:29 pm)

Exactly how did you receive this letter/Email?
 
I have sumitted a complant to Isuzu and NHTSA and they have all my information to contact me and have not.
 
How did you receive this notice?

#20 of 435 Re: NHTSA Letter [howardru] by marinaky

Jul 27, 2009 (6:58 pm)

Replying to: howardru (Jul 27, 2009 6:29 pm)
Resubmit your info to NHTSA. I had to do it 2 times before I received a response/claim #. That was months before I received this e-mail letter. You also have to open a case with Isuzu or Honda, whichever vehicle you own. Actual case #, not just a phone call to them. File a complaint with the car company. Read my info on carcomplaints.com - 1998 Honda Passport, go to body/paint, click on body. I have been pursuing Honda America since January 2009. I am just trying to get as many Rodeo/Passport owners out there to contact Mr. Rinehardt so we can push the automakers to do the right thing. So far, I have been one small voice against Honda. They have ridiculed me, and treated me like I was nothing, but I dogged after Honda anyway. So, I am celebrating just that fact that this is going forward, where ever it goes.

#21 of 435 Re: Rusted 1997 Rodeo [bru75] by marinaky

Jul 27, 2009 (7:04 pm)

Replying to: bru75 (Jul 21, 2009 6:14 pm)
Log back on to this web page, I have posted the letter we have received from the federal investigator into this issue. Cut and paste, fill out the info, send it to Mr. Rinehardt. M

#22 of 435 Re: NHTSA Letter [marinaky] by howardru

Jul 27, 2009 (8:00 pm)

Replying to: marinaky (Jul 27, 2009 6:58 pm)
Thanks Marinaky,
 
I already have a Isuzu Case # and NHSTA Case # from whent his happened last month. Still never got anything from NHTSA.
 
Either way, I already completed the paperwork, answered the questions and attached detailed photos of the rusted control arm. Already FAXed to him tonight and have a hard copy going out in the mail tomorrow.
 
Thanks for the heads up. That's 2 voices now!

#23 of 435 Email address to NHSTA Investigator by howardru

Jul 28, 2009 (5:46 pm)

Better yet, why wait for the U.S. Postal Service to lose your letter to Derek L. Rinehardt. Here is his email address so that you can email him your letter and photos!
  
drinehardtdot.gov

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