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Honda Accord, Future Vehicle, Sedan
#307 of 344 Re: Yikes! [rcummelin]
Nov 04, 2010 (4:53 pm)
4 speed does not mean it will accelerate slower, only that the transmission goes through a longer revving range in each gear and reaches top gear quicker, hence the poorer (hypothetical) fuel economy.
My Accord is a year old and has done 13K unsatisfactory miles - have been to 2 dealers.
No I am more in tune with Honda suspensions - my Integra and Odyseey both have/had softer rides so there is something wrong with the Accord.
To me the 6 cyl Accord is like a public speaker with hiccups - even to get it to 30 mph it would rev up to 2K RPM before shifting to the next gear - Corollas and Malibus would sprint ahead
#308 of 344 Re: Yikes! [sshvh]
Nov 05, 2010 (3:06 am)
To say that your Accord is slower because others are sprinting ahead, regardless of what vehicle they are driving, is almost a pointless statement. You have no idea how deep the other cars are dipping into their throttle. To compare the rate of forward progress all parties would have to know that they are participating in a form of measured progress. Hell I've been out paced by school buses and oil delivery trucks at times due to my leisurely progress away from stop lights. Any comparison of rate of speed would mean all involved would have to be knowing participants.
That said Honda engines do require higher revs to be in their prime torque band, be they four or six cylinder engines. Smaller 4 cyl turbo's are usually in their peak torque band by 2,500 RPM. My 2010 Accord V6 needs to be near 5,000 RPM to be at peak torque.
#309 of 344 Re: Yikes! [sshvh]
Nov 05, 2010 (4:58 am)
Your last post seems to confirm that your Accord is broken. Being an old drag racer, I can tell you that there are VERY few cars that can "sprint ahead" of our Accord. Maybe a new V8 Mustang or Camaro or something else that is tuned for sprinting, but not much else. Our Accord can easily out-accellerate just about anything else when leaving a traffic light. I mean EASILY.
Re: the suspension: if you read lots of the posts both here and on other Accord sites (like Drive Accord) you will find many posts & threads where the stiff suspension is mentioned (positively & negatively). This has been part of the Accord's design (and appeal to some customers, like me) for at least 5-8 years or so. The young guys that buy the Accord Coupe LOVE the suspension, just as the wife and I do.
We owned TWO recent Odysseys, a 2005 and a 2008, and found that while their suspensions were not as firm as the Accord, they were much firmer than the Toyota minivan, which drove like the steering and suspension were almost not there at all.
Obviously, you are unhappy with your Accord, which is sad, as many of us are pleased--at least for the most part. That isn't to say I would run out and buy another one, but ours is also almost a year old and has been totally trouble-free and enjoyable. We get great highway mileage--28-30--and we can't feel the VCM transitions at all. The transmission downshifts harder than I would like when slowing for a red light, but I can live with that. I figure we will keep it for a few more years at least.
Good luck with yours & please do yourself a favor and get it fixed!
Nov 05, 2010 (6:33 am)
4 speed does not mean it will accelerate slower, only that the transmission goes through a longer revving range in each gear
...which means it will drop further from the peak power (in this case, the upper 5000s on the tach) with each shift, returning slower acceleration than a vehicle with more gears, allowing for closer ratios and the ability to stay closer to the power peak under hard acceleration.
my Integra and Odyseey both have/had softer rides so there is something wrong with the Accord.
You're comparing ride of 2 an Acura and a van with 10+ year old shocks, yet you assume something wrong with the Accord. Um, whatever; that's very fuzzy logic.
even to get it to 30 mph it would rev up to 2K RPM before shifting to the next gear
Clarify please; what are you wanting your car to rev to before shifting? My V6 Sonata can sometimes shift under 2k if a light acceleration load is called for by my right foot, but when under moderate or heavy acceleration is called for, it may rev to 3-4k RPM, higher depending on how urgently I need to accelerate. The Accord is more powerful than my Sonata, weighs approximately the same, and accelerates with even less effort.
#311 of 344 2010 Accord 4 cyl oil change frequency
Nov 11, 2010 (6:04 pm)
I have read 3 opinions:
1. every 6 months
2. every 5,000 miles
3. the oil life calculation shown on the odometer
What say you?
#312 of 344 Re: 2010 Accord 4 cyl oil change frequency [loucopits]
Nov 11, 2010 (9:40 pm)
You'll get strong opinions on all three. In fact, you left out the once every 3 months or 3000 miles that so many push.
IMHO, Honda's maintenance minder system works well. I change mine when it reaches 15%. That usually works out to 5k - 7k. If you drive less than that... then you should change it at least once a year.
#313 of 344 Re: 2010 Accord 4 cyl oil change frequency [loucopits]
Nov 12, 2010 (5:37 am)
The oil life minder won't lead you astray. It counts engine revolutions, and takes conditions like trip length, how cold the engine is, etc into account. Doing so will prevent waste.
When the oil life minder hits 15% or after 12 months, whichever comes first.
#314 of 344 Re: 2010 Accord 4 cyl oil change frequency
Nov 12, 2010 (1:59 pm)
I have always been anal about oil changes and its likely I will always be that way. In my time, I've seen way too many engines fail due to lack of periodic maintenance, and old, sludgey oil can be a prime contributor to early and unexpected failure.
That said, if I'm (still) getting free dinosaur oil changes from Honda, I make sure to change it every six months, regardless of mileage. However, if I have switched over to synthetic oil (Mobil 1) then I feel that a year between changes is OK as long as I haven't driven more than 7000-8000 miles or so. If I put on more miles, then I change it sooner.
#315 of 344 2010 Hona Accord LX 5 Speed
Nov 16, 2010 (5:52 am)
Is it true, that you can wait a whole year for your first oil cange?
#316 of 344 Re: 2010 Hona Accord LX 5 Speed [speedy1946]
Nov 16, 2010 (7:31 am)
It depends on mileage, of course. If you don't reach 15% on your maintenance minder, then you should change the oil once a year.