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Off Topic Chatter Forget Bushisms, Biden Gaffes, We have Obama blunders
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 04, 2009 9:01 am) Be careful - you're painting with too broad a brush. Downstate NY (the suburbs & NYC) & upstate NY (where the Congressional race took place) are very different places with equally different politics. NYC is overwhelmingly Democratic, & Bloomberg himself was a registered Dem until he entered politics. The only reason why he switched to the GOP in 2001 was to bypass that year's Democratic mayoral primary. Later on, he left the Republican Party & declared himself an independent. This year, the GOP allowed him to use its line on the ballot, although he's no longer a registered Republican. After losing the governorship in 2006 & its majority in the state Senate last year, the GOP feels that it's in no position to reject a winner, even if he's a RINO, as Bloomberg certainly is. Upstate NY, which is largely rural & Republican, is an entirely different beast. Upstaters are unmistakeably conservative when it comes to taxes, spending & the 2nd Amendment, but their attitude on social issues is "you mind your business & I'll mind mine". In this respect, they're much more libertarian than, say, Southern conservatives. It's no accident that the Libertarian Party is very active upstate & has actually managed to win a few local elections. Hoffman was entirely the wrong candidate for upstate NY. A Ron Paul type, who could emphasize fiscal conservatism & talk about the dangers of big, runaway government while downplaying the social angle, would do extremely well there. The social conservatives should realize that they're the johnny-come-latelies of the Republican Party, which was originally built around principles of limited government, low taxes & fiscal conservatism. I myself have a hard time distinguishing between a left-wing Dem, who wants to regulate my financial life, & a social conservative, who wants to regulate the rest of my life. And until the GOP figures that out, I'll keep voting Libertarian.
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 04, 2009 10:18 am) But it's really not any of your business is it? And Bloomberg has been both a Dem and a Rep. He's used both parties.
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 04, 2009 10:27 am) Only if it becomes a crime to speak against it. Or if it is taught to my children or grandchildren as being a legitimate lifestyle. I do not want to be put in a position where I cannot tell my grandsons that homosexuality is a sin against God. Many of the laws that the gay community are pushing through would make that a crime. We have too many laws already. We don't need a law to protect gays from being assaulted. We have laws against that. As far as discrimination. I think the military "Don't ask, Don't tell" should be applied to all employment situations. Especially school teachers.
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Replying to: jimbres (Nov 04, 2009 10:18 am) What issues did he push that were not conservative? I would think that a district as Republican as you say it is could have done better than the candidate they picked. I also think of Liberals wanting to take my freedoms away more so than any conservative. I guess you put a lot of weight on abortion? I am more concerned with Liberals trying to tell me what to drive or where I can live, what I can eat, or what doctor I can choose. Taxing me for some wild theory on man made GW. I have communicated with our local Libertarian at length when he ran for our district seat in Congress when Duncan Hunter retired. I agreed with most of his positions. He had no chance to win even with my vote. He did take the time to email back and forth. Something Duncan Jr did not do. |
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A bad week for Democrats compounded by an awful moment for Barack Obama. After news broke out of the shooting at the Fort Hood Army post in Texas, the nation watched in horror as the toll of dead and injured climbed. The White House was notified immediately and by late afternoon, word went out that the president would speak about the incident prior to a previously scheduled appearance. At about 5 p.m., cable stations went to the president. The situation called for not only his trademark eloquence, but also grace and perspective. But instead of a somber chief executive offering reassuring words and expressions of sympathy and compassion, viewers saw a wildly disconnected and inappropriately light president making introductory remarks. At the event, a Tribal Nations Conference hosted by the Department of Interior's Bureau of Indian affairs, the president thanked various staffers and offered a "shout-out" to "Dr. Joe Medicine Crow -- that Congressional Medal of Honor winner." Three minutes in, the president spoke about the shooting, in measured and appropriate terms. Who is advising him? http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/A-Disconnected-President.html Cannot say it is from Fox News on this one. It is his own Chicago NBC state run media questioning his lack of leadership and respect. 87% of his own are furious about his lack of sensitivity.
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 06, 2009 7:02 am) Someone at the White House probably thought it better to give the strokes to the (previously scheduled?) guests before turning to maudlin subjects. I was out tooling around yesterday morning when I heard the news on NPR. POTUS was heavily quoted and it was all appropriate quotes, and there was nothing about the BIA in it. I dunno - you think there should have been one photo-op press conference for the BIA stuff, followed 5 minutes later by a "different" press conference? Joe Medicine Crow is 96 years old; maybe he could have waited another day or two. Damage control will probably include flying into Ft. Hood on the 11th after the Arlington ceremonies. [edit - unless they change the schedule, he's heading to Anchorage].
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 06, 2009 9:42 am) We better wake up and smell the roses in this country before we end up in the same situation as several EU countries. Major Hasan gave plenty of warning, concerning his beliefs over his career in the military. He adamantly opposed both our current wars. So why does the Army promote him to Major and deploy him to Iraq? The other sick part is we paid for his education as a doctor of Osteopathy and Psychiatry. I don't think he was part of any Islamic Terrorist group. Just a Islamic zealot that snapped when he was deployed to a war zone he did not believe was right.
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 06, 2009 1:01 pm) Our whole country was founded on multicultural BS. 
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 06, 2009 1:21 pm) One of the best examples of multicultural BS is the fire fighters in Oregon. SALEM, Ore. - Some English-speaking firefighters are losing their jobs because of an Oregon state law that requires them to be bilingual. The Department of Forestry enacted a law three years ago that requires them to be bilingual, but this year they're actually enforcing it. 2002 was such a devastating wildfire season, contractors were scrambling to find firefighters. Hispanics often filled their needs on the fire lines. Jim Walker of the Department of Forestry said "what we do know is 85 percent of the crew make-up is of Hispanic decent." But many of the Hispanic fire fighters do not speak English. Walker says the language barrier is a concern. http://www.katu.com/news/3634401.html That kind of crap should not happen in the USA. Anyone not willing to pledge his allegiance to this country should get the BOOT.
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JCT Confirms Failure to Comply with Democrats’ Mandate Can Lead to 5 Years in Jail Friday, November 06, 2009 Today, Ranking Member of the House Ways and Means Committee Dave Camp (R-MI) released a letter from the non-partisan Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) confirming that the failure to comply with the individual mandate to buy health insurance contained in the Pelosi health care bill (H.R. 3962, as amended) could land people in jail. The JCT letter makes clear that Americans who do not maintain “acceptable health insurance coverage” and who choose not to pay the bill’s new individual mandate tax (generally 2.5% of income), are subject to numerous civil and criminal penalties, including criminal fines of up to $250,000 and imprisonment of up to five years. In response to the JCT letter, Camp said: “This is the ultimate example of the Democrats’ command-and-control style of governing – buy what we tell you or go to jail. It is outrageous and it should be stopped immediately.” Key excerpts from the JCT letter appear below: http://republicans.waysandmeans.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=15- 3583 No wonder they don't want to release the bill for scrutiny before the vote. |
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