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Re: Powell not so sure now about Obama [gagrice] by fintail
Jul 07, 2009 (9:29 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 07, 2009 5:40 am)

In an 18th century socio-economic spectrum, far fewer people also have the chance of gaining an education, which limits options for development even more. With the costs of education as insane as the costs of medical care, lowering the means of the masses to put this out of reach to even more is a dangerous ideal. You want to talk of personal satisfaction - being stuck in a sweatshop can't be satisfying.
 
The idea of pride is subjective, anyway. I have no doubt you gave your best and worked hard even though the union did not care about this. You should be proud of this alone. You lived within your means, maybe made a few good decisions, and are now more comfortable than most working people. I would be proud.
 
What are these conservative ideas to create jobs? Please be specific, and please no trickle down garbage or other lies that work only for a very short period. Simply lowering corporate tax liabilities will do nothing when globalization opens up labor markets that work for virtual slave wages. The jobs will continue to flee so long as we can aid rogue states with no idea of social or environmental justice. Are there conservative ideas to make a level playing field? Any kind of social or economic morality?
 
Blaming the offshoring of jobs on unions is BS. It's all about the few who believe they are entitled to windfall profits year in year out, and will do anything to preserve their margins. If it involves betraying the nation that aids them most, so be it. This is not capitalism nor socialism, it is simple greed and shortsightedness. The top few are easily the most irresponsible and destructive to this society. The unions have been shortsighted and downright stupid, but they are a drop in the bucket. When the few see they can cut their labor costs by 95%, no union can help that.
 
The stimulus will benefit most those who have controlled the American direction since 1913 at the very latest - and no democrat or republican has ever had the balls to fight it or even question it. The system is broken. There's no workable solution offered by Barry, and McCain's friends offer nothing better.
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Re: Powell not so sure now about Obama [fintail] by gagrice
Jul 07, 2009 (1:05 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 07, 2009 9:29 am)

Blaming the offshoring of jobs on unions is BS.
 
I don't think it is. I watched the phone manufacturing move from Ohio to TN in the early 1970s. The reason was labor cost. Or we can look at auto manufacturing. This is an auto website. The vehicles the D3 have started building in Mexico are making money. Even Canada with the CAW is preferable for making a profit than the UAW workers. Ford may pull through this. It will not be with UAW workers making much higher wages than all the people around them in the Midwest.
 
Add to that regulations that prevent new manufacturing. The most recent energy bill mandates CFL bulbs in every socket. Those trying to manufacture them in the USA are shot down due to the mercury content involved. So we are mandating Chinese light bulbs in every socket in America.
 
Or the one I really like to push at my Liberal friends. This Congress taking the contract for USAID condoms from a US manufacturer and giving it to a Chinese company to save money.
 
Chinese Condoms Could Mean Layoffs for U.S. Workers
March 27, 2009
At a time when America is bleeding jobs, an Alabama condom factory has lost its U.S. government contract to an overseas manufacturer and may be forced to close, leaving its workers with few prospects..
 
And because, at 5 cents per condom, Alatech can't compete with the overseas prices of about 2 cents each, the company will likely be forced to shut its doors and fire its workers, some of whom have worked in the industry for decades.

 
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/IndustryInfo/story?id=7181080&page=1
 
Right under the nose of clueless Barry.
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Re: Powell not so sure now about Obama [gagrice] by fintail
Jul 07, 2009 (2:06 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 07, 2009 1:05 pm)

Unions or no unions, jobs will move to sweatshop societies so long as we allow it. I see neither party doing anything to stop it.
 
Auto manufacturing is a very small part of the economic picture. UAW is dying and irrelevant. These jobs will move to domestic nonunion workers and then likely to third world hells, so the least responsible segment of society can continue to cash in.
 
The asinine CFL laws simply move environmental damage to a land with zero regard for environmental standards - China. The Pandora's Box we opened so a few people could reap windfall profits, and so the sheeple could be soothed and contented with cheap trinkets while their future evaporates. Remember who opened that box...it didn't open itself...
 
Chinese condoms...I bet those are effective... And I have to wonder when that company lost the contract. If ABC reported it in March, it easily could have been in motion at the end of the Dubya regime.
 
The US government should not patronize any Chinese company nor any American company that moves labor offshore simply so a few people can accumulate even more wealth that they simply do not deserve.
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Re: Powell not so sure now about Obama [fintail] by gagrice
Jul 07, 2009 (3:43 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 07, 2009 2:06 pm)

And I have to wonder when that company lost the contract. If ABC reported it in March, it easily could have been in motion at the end of the Dubya regime.
 
It is a bit more complex than that and another waste of US dollars. These condoms are going to Africa and they are complaining that they are not thin enough. They want higher priced ones. So a contract went out and countries bid and beat out the US company. Because there is not a Buy American clause for condoms. This was all government doing. Who bought whom would be a good question to ask. If we knew where to start. With everyone in Congress beholden to someone it makes for a tough search. Alabama being a Red state you can bet a Dem was behind the switch. No love lost for Alabama's Shelby. Look for all solid red states to get shafted by this Democrat Congress.
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Re: Powell not so sure now about Obama [gagrice] by fintail
Jul 07, 2009 (4:48 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 07, 2009 3:43 pm)

"With everyone in Congress beholden to someone"
 
That's a big part of the problem in every sector of the governmental and financial world - it existed long before Barry was around, and shows no signs of slowing
down. Sadly, the opposition does not present any viable solution or even a protest.
 
Those jobs leaving Alabama is what self-titled capitalists will call a natural progression. From high wage domestic areas to low wage domestic areas, to criminal rogue states with easily exploitable and abusable labor.
 
Look for all states to be shafted by this Congress, just as all states were shafted by the Congress from 1994-2006. When a system exists where leaders are more concerned with the next election than with the well being of their countrymen, we get what we have seen for awhile now. The system now is based on getting the justice you pay for.
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Re: Powell not so sure now about Obama [fintail] by gagrice
Jul 07, 2009 (7:36 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 07, 2009 4:48 pm)

From high wage domestic areas to low wage domestic areas
 
Reading that ABC article on the rubber company in Alabama, I was surprised one fellow that is losing his job makes $60k per year. Seems pretty good for Alabama manufacturing. I wonder what the car makers pay down there?
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Far Left Intellectual that likes Palin by gagrice
Jul 08, 2009 (4:50 am)
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July 8, 2009 | Dear Camille,
 
Just wondering. Do you still think Sarah Palin is ready for the big stage?
 
Good question! And very timely after Palin's shock resignation as governor of Alaska this past Fourth of July weekend. I assume that family priorities -- personal as well as financial -- had become all-consuming. Given her success with finalizing the massive Alaska pipeline project, I think Palin should have stuck it out, but of course she is master of her own fate.
 
Unfortunately, it's pretty obvious that Palin still lacks that cadre of trusted pros who are the invisible elves behind every successful national politician -- the assistants who gather and vet material and who filter proposals and plan logistics. In a way, this is part of her virtues -- her complete freedom from routine micromanagement and business as usual. She does her own thing with seat-of-the-pants gusto. It's why she remains hugely popular with the Republican grass-roots base -- as I know from listening to talk radio. Callers coming fresh from her rallies are always heady with infectious enthusiasm.
 
Of course you'd never know that from reading hit jobs like Todd Purdum's sepulchral piece on Palin in the current Vanity Fair. Scurrying around Alaska with his notepad, Purdum still managed to find comically little to indict her with. Anyone with a gripe is given the floor; fans are shut out. This exercise in faux objectivity is exposed at key points such as Purdum's failure to identify the actual instigator of Palin's extravagant clothing bills (a crazed, credit-card-abusing stylist appointed by the McCain campaign) and his prissy characterization of Palin's performance at the vice-presidential debate as merely "adequate." Hey, wake up -- Palin cleaned Biden's clock! By the end, Biden was sighing and itching to split.
 
Whether Palin has a national future or not will depend on her willingness to hit the books at some point and absorb more information about international history and politics than she has needed to know in her role as governor. She also needs a shrewder, cooler take on the mainstream media, with its preening bullies, cackling witches, twisted cynics and pompous windbags. The Northeastern media establishment is in decline, and everyone knows it. Palin should not have gotten into a slanging match with David Letterman or anyone else who has been obsessively defaming her or her family. Let surrogates do that stuff.
 
The vicious double standard is pretty obvious. Only the tabloids, for example, ran the photos of a piss-drunk Chelsea Clinton, panties exposed, falling into her car outside London clubs a few years ago. If Chelsea had been the scion of Republican bigwigs, those tacky scenes would have been trumpeted from pillar to post in the U.S. as signals of parental failures or turmoil in clan Clinton. As a Democrat, I detest the partisan machinations that have become standard in Northeastern news management and that are detectable in editorial decisions at major metropolitan newspapers nationwide. It's why I, like a host of others, have shifted my news gathering to the Web.

 
http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2009/07/08/reader_letters/
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Re: Far Left Intellectual that likes Palin [gagrice] by steve_ HOST
Jul 08, 2009 (6:42 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 08, 2009 4:50 am)

I assume that family priorities -- personal as well as financial -- had become all-consuming.
 
Turns out she went fishing.
 
So some of her priorities are in the right place.
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Re: Far Left Intellectual that likes Palin [steve_] by gagrice
Jul 08, 2009 (7:55 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 08, 2009 6:42 am)

Being a long time resident of Alaska you know when the Reds or Kings are in you just gotta drop everything and go. Or else you just get to hear all the great fishing stories from your buddies with the right priorities in life.
 
PS
I was almost always in the latter category. Work was too important for me.
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No black kids allowed in my pool??? by gagrice
Jul 08, 2009 (8:08 am)
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Seems Philadelphia is still living in the 1950s.
 
"I heard this lady, she was like, 'Uh, what are all these black kids doing here?' She's like, 'I'm scared they might do something to my child,'" said camper Dymire Baylor.
 
The Creative Steps Day Camp paid more than $1900 to The Valley Swim Club. The Valley Swim Club is a private club that advertises open membership. But the campers' first visit to the pool suggested otherwise.
  
"When the minority children got in the pool all of the Caucasian children immediately exited the pool," Horace Gibson, parent of a day camp child, wrote in an email. "The pool attendants came and told the black children that they did not allow minorities in the club and needed the children to leave immediately."
  
The next day the club told the camp director that the camp's membership was being suspended and their money would be refunded.

 
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Pool-Boots-Kids-Who-Might-Change-the-C- - omplexion.html
 
Obama needs to get back and straighten this mess out.

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