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Re: Powell not so sure now about Obama [gagrice] by steve_ HOST
Jul 04, 2009 (12:54 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 04, 2009 11:59 am)

Shoot, I spell checked that too. Guess I clicked on "use as is" and it would up in my speller here. Time to clean that list out (Forums Preferences > Personal Spelling Words).
 
The link trick only works for the Google hack, like the one for Bush, when you searched incompetent or whatever it was.
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Re: Powell not so sure now about Obama [steve_] by fintail
Jul 04, 2009 (12:57 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 04, 2009 11:39 am)

"common sense" GOPers who operate their personal lives with shady ethics and suspicious deals? Say it aint so! I thought the evil red liberal socialists were the only crooks.
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Re: Powell not so sure now about Obama [gagrice] by fintail
Jul 04, 2009 (1:02 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 04, 2009 11:11 am)

The economy was "buggered" long before Barry ever set foot in the White House. We were living in a fragile house of cards for many years. This is no recession - this is a new reality, and we aren't a bunch of whiners for complaining about what the free marketeers have wrought.
 
I would like to know the "common sense" solutions to repairing the ailments of today. I don't see those with the claimed sense offering solutions. But when your state has low population, low public infrastructure demands, and an ability to dodge tax liabilities, the world is your oyster.
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Re: Powell not so sure now about Obama [fintail] by steve_ HOST
Jul 04, 2009 (1:06 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 04, 2009 12:57 pm)

I'll see your shady GOPer and raise you a Roland W. Burris.
 
It's all speculation about Palin at this point, but it's entertaining to speculate. At least so long as you aren't the one on the receiving end of it.
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Re: Powell not so sure now about Obama [fintail] by gagrice
Jul 04, 2009 (2:51 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 04, 2009 1:02 pm)

The economy was "buggered" long before Barry ever set foot in the White House. We were living in a fragile house of cards for many years. This is no recession - this is a new reality, and we aren't a bunch of whiners for complaining about what the free marketeers have wrought.
 
Hmmmm, I can somewhat agree. However, we have Never had a totally free market to find out what would happen. Yes this is the new reality. It was inevitable. One of my favorite writers Jerry Pournelle predicted this exact situation more than 30 years ago in his ScFi books. His and my belief is you cannot put up a wall around you. You have to bring those less fortunate up to your standard or they will bring you down to theirs. Looks like the worst case scenario is happening. I think the UAW is a good example of a few people getting more than their fair share with little effort. While all those around them were making less than half, many working much harder for what they got. To be perfectly honest I was also in that category with my job. Though far less people willing to spend half their life in the Arctic to achieve that standard of living.
 
Worrying about the rich getting richer is a futile pursuit. Since the beginning of man, a few have dominated the many. Always has been always will be. With the walls crashing down around US, my children and grandchildren will have it much harder than I did.
 
As far as our buggered economy. Spending will only make it worse. You and I both know that. Barry should have studied history instead of community organizing.
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Re: Powell not so sure now about Obama [gagrice] by fintail
Jul 05, 2009 (7:05 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 04, 2009 2:51 pm)

A totally free market would resemble an 18th century socio-economic spectrum. Frankly, I do not want that, and do not believe it should exist today. Chances are, you'd be a serf, as would I, and everyone else here.
 
It is not about helping the less fortunate, the globalist ideal has nothing to do with that. It is about a few reaping windfall profits by exploiting and abusing cheap labor, living away from any sense of responsibility. Any improvement seen in less developed regions is a side-effect and is not intended. They will not bring us down, we are enabling this, not them. It is some of "us" who will betray their background, consequences be damned.
 
Regarding the rich getting richer...there's an old adage that religion is the only factor keeping the poor from killing the rich. I have to wonder if that is a sustainable crutch.
 
Spending might not make things better...but IMO the terminal damage was done long before Barry was breathing, long before Dubya was breathing too.
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Re: Powell not so sure now about Obama [steve_] by gagrice
Jul 05, 2009 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 04, 2009 11:39 am)

Or follow the muckracking. The rumor on the street is that an indictment is pending for getting her house build free by Todd's friends ... while Todd's friends were building a giant public sports complex down the street.
 
I think you will find that rumor was started by long time enemy from Palin's mayoral days.
 
As a non political candidate citizen she will be free to sue those that defame. FBI says the story is total fabrication. It would be good to see liberal rags like Huffpo, MSNBC and NYT, pay $millions in defamation damages.
 
JUNEAU, Alaska (AP)
The abruptness of her announcement and the mystery surrounding her plans have fed widespread speculation. But Palin attorney Thomas Van Flein on Saturday warned legal action may be taken against bloggers and publications that reprint what he calls fraudulent claims.
 
"To the extent several websites, most notably liberal Alaska blogger Shannyn Moore, are now claiming as 'fact' that Governor Palin resigned because she is 'under federal investigation' for embezzlement or other criminal wrongdoing, we will be exploring legal options this week to address such defamation," Van Flein said in a statement. "This is to provide notice to Ms. Moore, and those who re-publish the defamation, such as Huffington Post, MSNBC, the New York Times and The Washington Post, that the Palins will not allow them to propagate defamatory material without answering to this in a court of law."
 
He also told the Anchorage Daily News that Palin wasn't in any criminal legal jeopardy.
 
"I can say definitively I am aware of no criminal investigation whatsoever involving Sarah Palin. Zero," he said.
 
The FBI reiterated that claim Saturday, telling the Los Angeles Times for a story Sunday that the Federal Bureau of Investigation was not investigating Palin's activities as governor, a former mayor or in any other capacity.
 
"There is absolutely no truth to those rumors that we're investigating her or getting ready to indict her," Special Agent Eric Gonzalez, the bureau's Alaska spokesman, said.
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Re: Powell not so sure now about Obama [gagrice] by steve_ HOST
Jul 05, 2009 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 05, 2009 7:28 am)

The real story is probably something along the lines of running off with Joe the Plumber.
 
With all the Republicans making news, and mostly not in a good way, surely the Obama White House is laughing all the way to the polls. POTUS would have to make a pretty big blunder right now to break into the news cycle.
 
Van Flein would be more effective as a mouthpiece if he had said the Governor's official emails and the like were public record and then invited people to read them. By threatening to try to shut down the free press, he just makes it look like they are hiding something.
 
I don't think the FBI indicts people, so someone needs to get specific and ask Gonzalez if the grand jury is convening.
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Re: Powell not so sure now about Obama [steve_] by gagrice
Jul 05, 2009 (1:24 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 05, 2009 9:12 am)

There is a difference between breaking a news story that is credible and making stuff up to defame someone. If the mainstream press wants to jump on stories with no basis in fact they should suffer the punitive damages. And why should emails be public record? Though they are not very secure. Do we get a copy of all Barry's Blackberry messages in the NYT or Washington Post? I personally try not to send any message out that could bite me in the butt. Believing any form of communications is secure in this day and age is naive.
 
So maybe the FBI is lying about no ongoing investigation of Palin. My guess, it is that hack Moore that hates her guts and would make up any story that someone else will pass along. Do you really think that with all the crap that the Libs made up about Palin during the campaign they would have missed something as juicy as using government paid workers to build their house when she was Mayor of Wasilla? Or whatever the rumor happens to be this week. And that is the issue. She is a threat to the Liberal Left in any election. So denigrating or out and out lying about Palin is their way of shutting her up.
 
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I would not bet that Barry is thrilled having Palin getting all the spotlight. This also invigorates the conservative base that feel they are at war with the Socialist swine in Washington DC.
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Re: Powell not so sure now about Obama [gagrice] by fintail
Jul 05, 2009 (3:24 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 05, 2009 1:24 pm)

If the FBI was doing something, does anyone believe they would admit to it? That's funny.
 
I thought getting free gifts to enhance undeserved real estate investments was a hallmark of AK politics.
 
She's only a threat if the left makes a blunder. No voting base of sound mind would choose her for any national role. The GOP needs to take accountability for the first time in the lives of most of its members and admit her appointment as running mate was the worst decision in their modern history.
 
The "conservative base" needs to atone for their own sins and look at the problems in their own house before they cry elsewhere.

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