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Re: A couple comments [fintail] by gagrice
Jun 24, 2009 (7:47 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jun 24, 2009 5:49 pm)

The boom over the past decade has been especially false
 
The economic boom in part was built on making war. That is a real stimulus for the economy. Where we went wrong is allowing poor and sometimes illegal lending practices to get out of hand. Now the call to repeat the same thing is unbelievable.
 
I can say with all certainty that Cap n Trade is a product of the Liberal Left Democrats. With the high priest Al Gore leading the charge. It goes all the way back to Enron and was spawned by Gore, Hanson and Ken Lay. They just failed to push it past the GOP Congress and later Bush.
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Re: A couple comments [gagrice] by fintail
Jun 25, 2009 (8:27 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 24, 2009 7:47 pm)

The war boom has a deeper problem, a boom built on debt with no thoughts of repayment. As the service based economy tries to take hold, this doesn't bode well for creating revenues to pay these obligations. Most everyone will be making do with a little less, and this will put less back into the coffers.
 
Lay and Bush were close friends...I am sure he would have been able to get away with anything had all eyes not been on him to begin with. That mess was at best a 50/50 blame game. An enviro-charade with windfall profits as the true objective.
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Re: A couple comments [fintail] by gagrice
Jun 26, 2009 (6:15 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jun 25, 2009 8:27 am)

Just to be fair and balanced. Ken lay kicked in $125,000 for Bill Clinton's 1993 inauguration parties. He traveled extensively on the US tax payers money to foreign countries during the Clinton administration. His ties to Ron Brown, that met an untimely death, are extensive. And Ken Lay had dinner with Bill Clinton the night before he died in 2006. Ken Lay was a big part of what is wrong with this country. I know you are well aware of all the shady characters that members in both parties hang out with. It would be near impossible to determine which party is the most corrupt. So I will pick the Democrats. As they have controlled this country most of the last 100 years. Not by coincidence most of our recessions and the great depression were while Democrats controlled Congress. I believe it is their tax and spend penchant that has made things worse in this country.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_divisions_of_United_States_Congresses
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Re: A couple comments [gagrice] by fintail
Jun 26, 2009 (6:34 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 26, 2009 6:15 am)

Ken Lay was also a close personal friend of Dubya, their pen-pal like communication is well known.
 
"Not by coincidence most of our recessions and the great depression were while Democrats controlled Congress"
 
A congress does not make economic policy. The controllers of economic direction have nothing to do with anyone who is elected. A congress really does not do much at all, hence the old joke: if pro is the opposite of con, progress is the opposite of congress.
 
The previous Congress had no problem embracing the false wartime "boom" itself. The "trickle down" garbage brainwashed into them hasn't helped the average American either. When will people realize the problem isn't Democrat or Republican, but the underlying powers who control them both?
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Re: A couple comments [fintail] by gagrice
Jun 26, 2009 (6:52 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jun 26, 2009 6:34 am)

When will people realize the problem isn't Democrat or Republican, but the underlying powers who control them both?
 
I do agree with you on that statement. I fear the Rockefeller family and the people they associate with much more than Kissinger and Cheney. The Aspen Institute is a hotbed of One World Politics. What was Clinton, Collin Powell and Ken Lay all doing there together in 2006 when Ken Lay died rather suddenly with no history of heart problems? Was it decided he was too much of a threat to the real powers? I believe Bill Clinton has weaseled his way into the inner circle. A place GW Bush would never be allowed. His dad maybe. Dubya is too much of a hick for those people to accept him. Ken Lay I am sure just used him.
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Re: A couple comments [gagrice] by fintail
Jun 27, 2009 (7:34 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 26, 2009 6:52 am)

The globalists with financial heritage who control Kissinger and friends are no less a danger than the Rockefellers. It's those guys who teamed up with FDR and his semi-communist sympathies, and then overtook and are devolving the GOP with their neocon interests. I look at Clinton and Gore as opportunists, the latter especially - an environmentalist for profit. Preaches green, but lives an energy intensive life. It's just a money making game that millions will fall for. When these guys practice what they preach, they will earn some respect.
 
Clinton isn't in any inner circle, he too is too much of a hick, without the family fortune or really even the personal fortune enough to have influence. He's allowed to hang out because many people still like him, nothing else.
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Putin vs Obama, Who will be King by gagrice
Jul 01, 2009 (5:43 am)
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Putin is throwing his weight around in Russia closing all the casinos. Was that to top Obama devastating the casino business, with his threats to those that use Las Vegas for frivolous conferences?
 
I think they both are after the top spot in the New World Order. My money is on Putin.
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Re: Putin vs Obama, Who will be King [gagrice] by fintail
Jul 01, 2009 (6:00 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 01, 2009 5:43 am)

In the dumbed down globalized new world order, Russia will have some advantages.
 
It does have some huge problems - namely corruption on a scale that makes anything here look like a kid stealing a piece of gum, a broken and sickening criminal justice system, and crumbling infrastructure. However, on the plus side, it isn't saddled with debt like the US, it has enormous natural resources, it isn't enslaved to expensive and benefit-free Israel, and it isn't numbed and dumbed by political correctness and false guilt.
 
  It also lacks the dangerous demographic trends of Europe - that saddled with their sharp lack of natural resources and idiots seeking to centralize control in Brussels will take Europe out of the count unless there is a change there soon.
 
There were few true winners of WW2 (the average American was not one of them), and the Soviets were a key victor. They milked it along in a wasteful and pointless cold war - and have kept their pride and attitude intact. He isn't called Stalputin by various wags for nothing. Russia has potential to be very strong.
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Change we are paying for by gagrice
Jul 02, 2009 (5:59 am)
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You youngsters that voted for this President and Congress get to pay the bills. Did Obama really need an entourage of 500 people on his EU tour?
 
WASHINGTON -- Spending by lawmakers on taxpayer-financed trips abroad has risen sharply in recent years, a Wall Street Journal analysis of travel records shows, involving everything from war-zone visits to trips to exotic spots such as the Galápagos Islands.
 
Hundreds of lawmakers traveled overseas in 2008 at a cost of about $13 million. That's a 50% jump since Democrats took control of Congress two years ago.
 
The cost of so-called congressional delegations, known among lawmakers as "codels," has risen nearly 70% since 2005, when an influence-peddling scandal led to a ban on travel funded by lobbyists, according to the data.
 
Lawmakers say that the trips are a good use of government funds because they allow members of Congress and their staff members to learn more about the world, inspect U.S. assets abroad and forge better working relationships with each other. The travel, for example, includes official visits to American troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.
 
The Journal analysis, based on information published in the Congressional Record, also shows that taxpayer-funded travel is a big and growing perk for lawmakers and their families. Some members of Congress have complained in recent months about chief executives of bailed-out banks, insurance companies and car makers who sponsored corporate trips to resorts or used corporate jets for their own travel.
 
Although complete travel records aren't yet available for 2009, it appears that such costs continue to rise. The Journal analysis shows that the government has picked up the tab for travel to destinations such as Jamaica, the Virgin Islands and Australia's Great Barrier Reef.
 
Lawmakers frequently bring along spouses on congressional trips. If they take commercial flights, they have to buy tickets for spouses. If they fly on government planes -- as they usually do -- their spouses can fly free.

 
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124650399438184235.html
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Powell not so sure now about Obama by gagrice
Jul 03, 2009 (4:12 pm)
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Colin Powell, one of President Obama's most prominent Republican supporters, expressed concern Friday that the president's ambitious blitz of costly initiatives may be enlarging the size of government and the federal debt too much.
 
"I'm concerned at the number of programs that are being presented, the bills associated with these programs and the additional government that will be needed to execute them," Mr. Powell said in an excerpt of an interview with CNN's John King, released by the network Friday morning.

 
I wonder when it occurred to Collin Powell that Obama was out to bankrupt the USA? His campaign rhetoric should have been enough to scare any fiscal conservative. It was a race vote pure and simple and now Powell is regretting it.

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