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Off Topic Chatter Forget Bushisms, Biden Gaffes, We have Obama blunders
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WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama's joke wasn't lost in translation—even though he referred to a Cinco de Mayo celebration as "Cinco de Cuatro." Obama jumbled his words as he welcomed guests to the White House to observe the Mexican holiday, sending the crowd into laughter before he referred to the day correctly. "Welcome to Cinco de Cuatro—Cinco de Mayo at the White House," said Obama, in what appeared to be an attempt to note they were celebrating on the fourth of May instead of the fifth.
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Replying to: gagrice (May 05, 2009 5:13 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (May 05, 2009 5:15 am) Bushism: The illegal activity of illegal immigrants crossing the border is against the law. 
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Replying to: gagrice (May 05, 2009 5:15 am) Obama is really smart, scary smart. Bush was not at all stupid, but he was profoundly ignorant and really didnt' much care that he was. Obama may indeed sometimes be "full of it" but Bush was generally empty most of the time. The ability to carry contradictions in his head was beyond his ability. It's tough being under the spotlight 24/7. One is bound to make gaffes. Obama is smart enough to admit mistakes. Bush never would and this severely diminished his image with the American people I think. Americans do not like "lordly types" who are arrogant and lack a touch of humility. If you cannot apologize in politics, you cannot negotiate. Once a country hardens into two intractable opposing forces, it is pretty much doomed to a cycle of disruption and national doubt IMO. |
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I think it should be "Barry Blunders". "Obama Blunders" just doesn't have a catchy ring to it. Joe Biden should best just not say it.
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Replying to: steve_ (May 07, 2009 10:36 am) Getting back to Barry's Blunders. I would blame most of the errors in Protocol on ignorant staff. He and Michele should have been coached on their meeting with the Queen. And the iPod was a real winner. 
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Replying to: gagrice (May 07, 2009 8:14 pm) OB is really smart. Smart enough to act dumb sometimes. The average American IQ is 98. Slippery Bill was a very smart guy as well. Americans don't generally like their leaders to be conspicuously smart. It's better if they hide it. We have a long tradition of anti-intellectualism in America, going back 150 years from the Jackson era. Thomas Jefferson was probably the smartest man who ever occupied the White House by a long shot. They say the longer you stay in office, the more people come to hate you, but that wasn't the case with FDR. He was shrewd in his fashion but also very naive in many ways. LBJ is my favorite. He knew exactly what politics was about. Could have been great but made a big mistake.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 07, 2009 8:28 pm) In retrospect I probably respect Truman of all the modern day Presidents. He was a fiscal conservative to my way of thinking. I think FDR set the USA and the World back decades with failed policies. People liked listening to him talk on the radio. LBJ probably knew how to play the political game better than anyone. Of course I still like Reagan, he was down to earth and able to get his agenda across to the people. GW Bush wanted to be like Reagan and never quite made the grade. President Obama had the opportunity to rise above the special interests that he railed against in his campaign. I see the same old Washington DC. He may have the most corrupt Cabinet since Nixon. |
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Replying to: gagrice (May 07, 2009 8:45 pm) Truman's currency has risen in the last 20 years, you are right. He was tougher than FDR in foreign policy, and to his credit he did integrate the armed forces. He was not a charismatic man but he was pretty solid. I thought Reagan was ultimately just empty rhetoric and cliche. He said one thing, talked a great game, but did another, and spent money like a drunken sailor. The preacher against big government became the very thing he purported to despise. How ironic. (not unlike the Governator, eh?) Once his idolators die off, he will drop in prestige I believe. He was a person of little substance but of great ability to project substance IMO. You know, an actor. His actions were quite contradictory and more than a bit confused. As with Bush, he was taken advantage of quite easily by the corrupt and powerful. To his credit, unlike Bush, he would sometimes listen to good advice. A mixed bag as a President at best. I really hope we are done as a nation with mixing show business with politics BTW. |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 07, 2009 9:41 pm) The one thing I give FDR credit for that many lament is the agreement with the Saudi Royal Family. We might be a lot worse off today if oil was not traded in US dollars. As far as President Obama. I think he has appeal here and abroad as one of savior of the World. A mighty big order. I don't think any man is capable of fixing the mess the Wolrd is in. Even with the latest stimulus spending we are not in as bad a condition as Japan and some other countries. The EU has some problems we don't want. While we have a bad unemployment. I don't think we are in as bad a shape as the late 1970s. Let's hope Obama gets good advice and does not consult with Jimmy Carter.
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