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#115 of 288 PRIUS V QUESTIONS by yurko Jul 11, 2009 (5:41 pm)
I've read all the previous posts and they're interesting. I apologize in advance for asking some questions that are directly pricing or buying experience-related.   I'm quite interested in the 2010 Prius, either the IV or the V version.   (1.) I noticed that the V version, with its 17" tires/wheels, has a slightly wider turning circle than the other versions (36.0 ft curb-to-curb vs. 34.2 ft). The vehicle height and minimum ground clearance are listed the same for all versions. Wouldn't the V version be slightly taller than the other versions and have slightly greater ground clearance? Any opinions on ride/handling characteristics of the V version vs. the others? Is it all "show"....or is there some "go" in the difference?   (2.) Would the V version (with 17" tires/wheels) be expected to get as good mileage as the other versions (with 15" tires/wheels)? If not, why does Toyota not have to list 2 separate sets of EPA figures?   (2.) The solar roof package is unavailable with version V. An early post said this is due to fuel economy, while another post mentioned that Toyota might not want a fully loaded 2010 Prius to be too expensive. Does anybody have any other info on why the solar roof package is unavailable with the V version?   (3.) The LED headlights on the 2010 Prius V version consume about 25% less electricity than the regular halogen headlamps, but does anyone know how these LED headlamps would compare visibility-wise with, say, HID headlamps?.   Thanks. Replies to this message: gfr1 (Jul 11, 2009 8:12 pm) yurko (Jul 12, 2009 5:27 am)
#116 of 288 Re: PRIUS V QUESTIONS [yurko] by gfr1 Jul 11, 2009 (8:12 pm)
Replying to: yurko (Jul 11, 2009 5:41 pm) Understand that I am not an authority with inside information on this vehicle, but speaking from experience, -- #1 -- The turning radius increase woud likely be from tire clearance from the wider diameter tire. Turning sharper would cause tire-wheelwell contact. Other things being equal, such as suspension changes, the different wheel sizes would have a minimum effect on ground clearance. The larger wheels (on the same installation) installed by manufacturers will have nominally the same radius/diameter/circumference. That being due to the larger wheel having a lower profile tire. Such as, the rim to road distance is of an equivalent distance as the different wheel radius, or nominally the same tire tread diameter. Again, other things being equal, the larger wheel/lower profile tire should result in better handling and dry road traction, but probably a less supple ride and likely a very slight reduction in fuel economy due to roll resistance. #2 -- The lower profile tire has a larger contact footprint and this type of tire often has better traction design, causing some rolling resistance. Such a change would not likely exceed the rounding of the figures accepted by the EPA tests. Very little differences affect apparent figures when the are as high as the mpg of the Prius. Your second #2 -- Toyota hasn't given much of a position for the Prius V Solar roof item. It migh be total cost, handling balance, or whatever. It may become an enticement later, also. I wouldn't be too concerned about the solar, though. It doesn't get used to charge/augment the battery. It only does some venting of the idled vehicle, as I've read, so it would be a pretty expensive accessory, in my mind. #3 -- We'll have to see. They have to meet standards and they are expensive, so if you want the ultimate in saved electrical energy (& equivilant hybrid electrical performance), they should contribute to that. As a per/headlamp item, I'd expect them to save more than 25%, but overall, the 25% might cover it.   Regards, gfr Replies to this message: yurko (Jul 12, 2009 5:27 am)
#117 of 288 Prius 2010 Nav System by mitridate Jul 12, 2009 (4:22 am)
HI, has anybody of you an idea, how to update (load revised maps) Prius's Nav equipment software? Appreciate your help Mitridate Replies to this message: wvgasguy (Jul 13, 2009 4:19 am)
#118 of 288 Re: PRIUS V QUESTIONS [gfr1] by yurko Jul 12, 2009 (5:27 am)
Replying to: gfr1 (Jul 11, 2009 8:12 pm) Thanks a lot, gfr1. I appreciate your answers and comments. And, as you said, the solar roof option has only limited utility, but costs quite a bit.   (A) With respect to the LED headlights on the 2010 Prius V, they're presumably brighter than the standard halogen headlamps on the other versions (II to IV), But does anyone know how LED headlamps' brightness compares with HID (xenon) headlamps?   (B) I live in SET territory in far southwest Florida. Local dealers are pricing the 2010 Prius above MSRP. I've read many positive posts for Fitzmall Toyota in VA and Moll Toyota in MO. Does anyone out there know of customer-friendly dealers closer to my locale?   Thanks.
#119 of 288 Re: Prius 2010 Nav System [mitridate] by wvgasguy Jul 13, 2009 (4:19 am)
Replying to: mitridate (Jul 12, 2009 4:22 am) has anybody of you an idea, how to update (load revised maps) Prius's Nav equipment software?   You can purchase the latest DVD for the Nav at your dealership (Pretty expensive).
#120 of 288 Stereo ripoff? by javent Jul 13, 2009 (11:53 am)
Almost ready to buy a 2010 Prius. The difference between a Prius II and a III is a $1k stereo. The Nav package, not available on the II, costs $3.6k and includes the same stereo. Actually a lesser one if you consider swapping a 6 disc changer for a 4 disc. Are they charging twice for the same stereo? Replies to this message: wvgasguy (Jul 15, 2009 4:59 am)
#121 of 288 Re: Stereo ripoff? [javent] by wvgasguy Jul 15, 2009 (4:59 am)
Replying to: javent (Jul 13, 2009 11:53 am) No, the NAV requires the JBL 4 disc and the "extra" cost is for the added NAV. Everything in the model jumps are just an incremental charge for the extras that are included. There are things included with the NAV/JBL that did not use to be part of the package. The Backup camera being the main feature. Satellite radio reciever is now standard and that was about $400 add on last year.
#122 of 288 prius head lights by tyler70 Jul 15, 2009 (10:11 pm)
I just got my package IV with solar roof for $400 off invoice. Can anyone tell me if there is a way for me to replace the headlight bulbs to make them brighter, like change to Xenon light bulbs ?? is that possible? and if yes, how and where can i go to have that done ? thanks very much. Replies to this message: kyeung (Jul 17, 2009 1:19 am) tyler70 (Jul 17, 2009 11:16 pm)
#123 of 288 Re: prius head lights [tyler70] by kyeung Jul 17, 2009 (1:19 am)
Replying to: tyler70 (Jul 15, 2009 10:11 pm) Do you mean $400 off MSRP? May I ask which car dealer and salesman did you buy the car from? Thx. Replies to this message: tyler70 (Jul 17, 2009 11:16 pm)
#124 of 288 2010 Prius II w Bluetooth & floor Mats - $22,470 + Tax Title etc by janehonda Jul 17, 2009 (10:09 am)
I am in San Diego. Does anyone have any feedback on whether this is a good price? I put a $500 deposit down yesterday and expect to have the car on 7/27.   Thanks! Replies to this message: sprugg828 (Jul 18, 2009 8:12 pm)

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