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Re: EPS: Toyota must fix it. [zikzak]
by terceltom
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Oct 06, 2009 (6:18 pm)
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Replying to: zikzak (Oct 06, 2009 5:28 pm)
I hope you get your dissatisfaction resolved. Please note: This is not a problem with ALL 2009/2010 Corollas as you state. It seems to be sporadic. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones that have never experienced any problem whatsoever with this new EPS on my 2009 XLE, in fact I have been very impressed with the feel of this new sterring concept.
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Re: EPS: Toyota must fix it. [zikzak]
by mnf
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Oct 06, 2009 (6:43 pm)
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Replying to: zikzak (Oct 06, 2009 5:28 pm)
No issues here after 22,000 on my 09 LE I just returned from a 400 mile trip last weekend my 17 year old also logged a few miles with no issues. I do 80% or more relaxed with one hand on the wheel. I also do use my cell phone and never feel like i am drifting. On the return i had to travel into a head and cross wind of 30-40 mile winds even then i used one hand 70% of the time. I do think tires and air have some impact on the feel. Did your daughter also have issues with the car you mentioned that you used it and that you had issues.
MNF
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Re: EPS: Toyota must fix it. [mnf]
by zikzak
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Oct 09, 2009 (7:02 am)
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Replying to: mnf (Oct 06, 2009 6:43 pm)
Prior to my trip to Jacksonville, I did check all the tire pressures and only had to really adjust the air in one. Since I have my own air compressor, I always follow the recommanded tire pressures. From another view, I love the Corolla's looks and how quiet it rides down the highway, minus the lane movement. When my daughter bought the car several months ago, she and my wife made the deal. I only found out after the purchase was complete. My older Corolla (which I loved) drove as well as any small car I've ever owned. I really hope putting different tires on the car will solve the problem, maybe a good rain tire.
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Re: EPS: Toyota must fix it. [zikzak]
by denvecsr
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Oct 09, 2009 (7:21 am)
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Replying to: zikzak (Oct 09, 2009 7:02 am)
What tires are on the car now? Tires and 1-4 lbs of pressure differences wouldn't do anything. There is a major problem with all CE and LE models.
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Re: EPS: Toyota must fix it. [denvecsr]
by terceltom
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Oct 09, 2009 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: denvecsr (Oct 09, 2009 7:21 am)
"There is a major problem with all CE and LE models".
Well it's obviously not "a major problem with all CE and LE models" see message #80 for just one of the many satisfied "09" and "10" Corolla drivers.
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Re: EPS: Toyota must fix it. [terceltom]
by denvecsr
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Oct 09, 2009 (2:13 pm)
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Replying to: terceltom (Oct 09, 2009 11:42 am)
52 complaints at http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints/results.cfm
Many here.
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Re: EPS: Toyota must fix it. [denvecsr]
by terceltom
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Oct 09, 2009 (3:23 pm)
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Replying to: denvecsr (Oct 09, 2009 2:13 pm)
Lets see, Toyota sold over 750,000 Corollas in 2009 and are track to match that number again this year. And you said you found 52 complaints ! Hardly ALL of the CE and LE Corollas. But then again if it's your own car it doesn't matter if it's one complaint out of 1,125,000 or 52 complaints out of 1,125,000. But the reality is it's only a small percentage Corolla drivers that see the new EPS steering as a problem.
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Re: EPS: Toyota must fix it. [terceltom]
by denvecsr
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Oct 09, 2009 (7:22 pm)
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Replying to: terceltom (Oct 09, 2009 3:23 pm)
It would be nice to know the real truth how many of us have brought this up to their dealer. Especially their first time in service. As soon as I left the showroom and drove home I had to bring it back and complain. They said they had to do a front end alignment because it was off. It only had 15 miles on it. It's impossible to use the GPS with its sensitive touch steering. What I don't understand is how you keep praising Toyota and how your steering is so wonderful, terceltom. You do this for whom? You? For what satisfication? Very strange.
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Re: Reviews [denvecsr]
by thegraduate
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Oct 09, 2009 (7:41 pm)
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Replying to: denvecsr (Oct 09, 2009 7:22 pm)
Tom,
If you're going to use your anecdotal evidence, I'm using mine. It is just as relevant, and just as ridiculous to use in a scientific manner. It is interesting to see something other than numbers listed, and instead reviews from people other than performance testers who are looking to wring out every ounce of performance from a car 100% of the time.
The consumer reviews for the 2010 Corolla can be found to your right. There are 27 here on Edmunds, so far. Here are excerpts regarding handling from the first five you'll find.
1.) Wow, I thought it was just me but reading what others say the steering is kinda weird.
2.) After test driving an "S" model, I realized some improvements needed to be made in the power-steering sector
3.) The steering does wander a bit - feels like you are not on the ground, should have reg rack and pinion for a small car feel.
4.) The car seems to drift to the left a little not sure if it's the crown in the roads or what.
5.) Suggested Improvements Increased straight line stability by changing suspension geometry.
I didn't pick and choose these reviews out of the 27. I didn't go through and find the most detrimental things to say about them. I simply found the portion of the first 5 reviews which regarded handling and pasted it here. These are, in order, the first five reviews posted. Each of them had something bad to say about the steering. Several lauded the ride, and liked the cars overall, but the steering system wasn't favored, 5 out of 5 times. Even Trident's dentists can't match 5 out of 5!
I truly don't believe the Corolla to be a bad car. Not at all. I think its a good economy sedan, perhaps too appliance-like to be the object of lust, but as a commuter piece, it works quite well outside of the need to actually "drive" the car.
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Re: EPS: Toyota must fix it. [denvecsr]
by terceltom
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Oct 10, 2009 (5:57 am)
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Replying to: denvecsr (Oct 09, 2009 7:22 pm)
Come on man, it's okay for me to tell you how much I just love my new Corolla just as you stated you "would never buy another one". Like I said over and over I DON'T HAVE ANY STEERING ISSUES ! INFACT, I LIKE THE NEW EPS STEERING. Yes, I am a big Toyota fan, but I'm objective as well. I just wanted to let you know that there are litterally hundreds of thousands out there just like me. This an objective forum not just a Toyota bashing forum. It's okay to post on here if you like the car, not if you just dislike it. And I just like everything about car.
On a side note, curious as to why your bad steering effects your GPS?
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