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You are in the Toyota Corolla
What is this discussion about?
Toyota Corolla, Steering, Sedan
#588 of 667 Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [sjarea]
Jan 12, 2011 (6:03 pm)
sjarea states - "What you might be inferring is diligence"
No, what I was inferring was negligence - as in, the failure to exercise that degree of care in circumstances.
sjarea states - "If toyota most likely knew of the problem then I do not think they should wait for people to complain. They should do the right thing and issue a recall"
I agree 100% but unfortunately and apparently you can't even trust Toyota anymore, so it's up to you and I to make sure the quality of what we buy is up to par. And personnally I wouldn't want them tinkering with my steering as I like it just the way it is.
sjarea states - "Any negligence would fall on a manufacturer that knows they have a steering problem and yet continues to sell those cars to unsuspecting buyers"
Well I guess the jury is still out if there actually is, or even if they knew about this problem, hence the investigation by the NHTSA.
sjarea states - "Maybe you or edmunds.com will e-mail/ call Steve St. Angelo, Toyota’s Chief Quality Officer for North America and ask him or someone in his office to come here and read and comment on this thread"
Don't think he'll make the time for us peons, he just wants our money $$$.
#589 of 667 Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [terceltom]
Jan 12, 2011 (7:01 pm)
I still completely disagree with you.
Also, even looking at
10 Steps to Buying a New Car
Published: 11/08/2002 Updated: 04/30/2009 - by Philip Reed, Senior Consumer Advice Editor, Edmunds.com
It does not state anywhere in there to test drive the specific car you are buying.
The closets it gets to is:
# If you haven't already done so, test-drive all the cars you are considering buying.
Which is exactly what I did.
# Inspect the car for dents, dings and scratches before taking final delivery.
Which is exactly what I did.
Perhaps edmunds.com will update their article with your suggestion.
So, where is the negligence? Again, I completely disagree with you.
#590 of 667 Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [sjarea]
Jan 12, 2011 (7:22 pm)
Okay, but I sure next time you buy a car you won't fall for the demo test drive trick, bet you'll test drive YOUR OWN car, right?
#591 of 667 Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [terceltom]
Jan 12, 2011 (7:30 pm)
Probably not since I have driven test models before and never had problems in the past when buying a new car.
The only right thing for me to do is never buy a toyota again.
#592 of 667 Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [sjarea]
Jan 12, 2011 (7:39 pm)
Probrably better off with that Ford Fiesta, LOL
#593 of 667 Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [terceltom]
by Kirstie@Edmunds HOST
Jan 13, 2011 (9:11 am)
Maybe so. The Corolla isn't the right car for everyone.
Why argue? The OP doesn't like his car or how it performs. No amount of hindsight or debate is going to change that. Several people don't like how the EPS performs, others do. That's just the way it is.
#594 of 667 Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [kirstie_h]
Jan 13, 2011 (11:00 am)
Correct and compounded by the fact that some just don't like it and some actually have a problem unit; it's difficult to distinguish dismay from disfunctional.
#597 of 667 Re: The truth [biffpreston1]
Feb 02, 2011 (7:15 am)
I'm not sure what grade your English professor gave you on your research project, but I hope it wasn't an "A". You have hurt the quality of this discussion forum by spreading inaccurate information about the 2010 & 2011 Toyota Corolla Electronic Power Steering systems.
I'd like to set the record straight for everyone reading here, because better understanding the new EPS systems in the new cars is important. I appreciate your research into (JTEKT) , and what products they produce. But you failed to realize that for at least the (2010 Corolla) and 2011 Corola the EPS system was "Steering: Electric Power Streeing (EPS); power-assisted rack-and-pinion". In your post you said "If you look down below at some of the other types such as the pinion type and the rack type you will note in the descriptions that JTEKT which is the manufacturer provides they state that these two other systems provide excellent road handling and road feel." I hope that this is true, as it would mean that this is a system of a higher quality than the Column-type.
As an added note, the following new cars in this class have the "Rack-and-pinion" style EPS: 2011 Toyota Corolla, 2011 Honda Civic, 2011 Chevy Cruze, 2012 Ford Focus
The following new cars in this class have the "Column" style EPS: 2011 Hyundai Elantra
I would suggest you do some fact checking against the research paper you wrote, and then come back here and discuss the 2011 Corolla. In addition to that, I would also suggest you go by a Toyota dealer, and test drive the 2011 Corolla to assist in discussing your opinion on how it drives (not how the 2009-2010 model drives).