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Replying to: trabd123 (May 14, 2009 7:33 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (May 15, 2009 7:19 am)
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Replying to: bdmccullen (May 13, 2009 5:09 am)
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funny about the MDX being a soccer mom car. you can say that about almost any SUV but actually the MDX is probably one of the more masculine and truck like of any in the midsize suv category (along with maybe the Pathfinder which is too bulky and boxy like the Pilot) I see tons of soccer moms in BMW X5's and Porsche Cayennes. yes they are country club soccer moms but honestly the soccer mom arguement is bs at this point because both of those suv are more feminine and driven by women. like someone said, MDX is more power, less money , and better handling. add to that the better features and more cargo room and overall space it just wins overall pretty significantly. significantly enough that no matter how much I tried to consider other midsize suvs, it always came back to the mdx. i mean to each his own and i've already admitted that I like the Cayenne styling the best, believe me. But i had to make that a secondary priority to the important stuff like features and price and reliability and cost to maintain etc. Maybe when i'm older i would do the Cayenne but while i have a young child and all the MDX is just better overall. its not perfect. even from the Subaru B9 Tribeca I had before, I actually believe it or not found a couple things better about that suv over the MDX. mostly the fact that the back seat could move forward and back and if you put it all the way back it had the most backseat legroom of any midsize suv and more then the larger MDX even. plus the puddle lights on the Tribeca were cool. other then that though I think the MDX is better in every way and though the evenly weighted boxer engine made the Tribeca more like a porsche suv then the cayenne and the symmetrical AWD is probably industry leading (along with quattro) the SH AWD is right up there and prob one of the best for handling which acura claims others car companies are try to copy and emulate the sh awd. I'm sure its more then adequate for rain and snow too but its nice that it has an emphasis on handling so the awd is actually used during the majority of dry non foul weather driving as well for the handling aspect. Believe me, i considered everything. The Mazda CX9 sometimes trys to compete with the MDX and its decent looking enough but in the end its just going to fall short of the Acura and its made by Ford and shares a platform with the Edge and so that just completely eliminates it. but it is cheaper then the MDX so ppl may like that but for me the MDX was perfect middle territory, being still a luxury make in Acura but yet less then the X5 and Cayenne, both of which you get less for way more money. I did like the nice larger size of the Buick Enclave and its rounded looks but its not rated as well as the MDX and who wants a GM right now when you can have the year after year highly rated Honda/Acura reliability. in that regard Toyota/Lexus and Honda/Acura just win. The Lexus RX350 is smaller then the MDX though and also very soccer mom feminine so that was out. I love Nissan/Infiniti but i had a pathfinder in the past and the new one is almost too big and boxy like the Pilot. some say a Pilot is a slightly larger cheaper MDX but the only thing they share is the chassis. again MDX is more perfect giving me luxury but yet still very masculine truck like and utilitarian suv that I'm not afraid to actually use like i would the cayenne. the X5 front end just looks wimpy to me anymore with the small bwm grille. i like the rear but thats it. again you just get so much less for so much more money with both of those. the Q7 is too big and looks like a long wagon and just not as good as the MDX in other ways , not rated as well and more money. the Audi Q5 is x3 size so thats completely out. i could go on but point is i considered everyting and for me it just always came back to the MDX. even if the styling doesn't excite me as much as some of the others (mostly just cayenne) and in some ways not even as much as my 06 Tribeca (only 06 and 07 had the Alfa Romeo front grill and hood line headlights like the Cayenne before the redesigned it in 08 to a more conservative suv design looking like everything else) but the MDX styling is decent enough and it has a strong front end and back end. with some nice accessories (which are much more reasonably priced then X5 or Cayennes) and then tinting the frotn windows to match the backs and putting some 22" wheels on the MDX, believe me its one of the best looking things on the road so that takes care of the looks. look in the end its personal preference somewhat, but the ratings from consumer reports can't be argued with as they are the only unbiased publication (unlike car and driver etc) everyone always says what they have is the best but I try to be honest. I admit several times that for me the Cayenne is the best looking but to say its a guys car and the mdx is a soccer mom is wrong because i see tons of women in the cayenne (and granted i said country club women) so that argument is just bogus. yes there are lots of mdx on the road because its popular, well rated and not overly expensive. meanwhile there are just as man X5 though and plenty of Cayenne so its not like its so rare. exclusivity is nice and i had it for years with the 06 B9 Tribeca (shortened to just Tribeca in 08) was one of the first on the roads. took the subaru symbol off, ppl would always stare at it, compliment it and ask me what it was and sometimes i'd say a new Alfa Romeo suv (the front and rear end were both very Alfa Romeo like and not by accident as the guy who designed it , designed for Alfa Romeo before Subaru) and i had it all h ooked up with wheels and everything so yeah, it was the only thing on the road that looked like it even compared to other 06-07 B9's which there weren't many of anyway. so i lost exclusivity but the Cayenne wouldn't have neccesarily given me that and I customize my MDX enough to make it unique which is much more affordable to do th en on the Cayenne where even on the base the accessories and options can take you up to 70-80k very quickly. |
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Replying to: x5killer (May 18, 2009 3:01 pm) 1) If you are like most people, you buy a car, you run it, and you wind up owning it for 5 to 7 years minimum. Which dealer will give you the better experience (quality people, free loaners, personal attention, etc.) over the next 7 years?? The high volume store where your sales "consultant" will be long gone in 60 days? Or, a niche sports car manufacturer who has to fight for every sale and seems determined to keep the customer? I get notes on personal stationary from Porsche (not Porsche-dealer) executives seemingly every month or so, four years after I bought my Cayenne! 2) The Cayenne, even the V6, qualifies as a Section 179 deduction. Don't even ask your CPA what this means. Just understand that the government just paid for 33% of your new SUV if you use it in your business as a delivery vehicle of sorts.(Is life fair? Where was Dick Cheney when I was in the Mekong Delta making $99 a month and saving it to build a company?). All in all, a modestly optioned V6 Cayenne is the Best Buy now on the market. I think that with a sunroof, Bose, and heated, leather seats (what else could you reasonably need?) , you would be well under 40K with the Section 179 deduction. If you don't own a company nor are in a professional LLC that lets you use deductions such as these, I think the price of poker just went up. Maybe you should rethink your transportation spending. The 2009 Volvo XC70 which now is around 30K after some pushing and shoving may be more reasonable.
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Replying to: blckislandguy (May 18, 2009 5:31 pm) |
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I'm glad I read these posts. Thank you all for your input and advice. I'm in the process of deciding on either the Cayenne S, X5 4.8, MDX, or Range Rover Sport. I drove them all. The Cayenne S (385 hp) is the fastest and I think (because I love music) has the best stereo system out of any. I just loved the pick up on the S and the handling (took on ramp to highway at about 60 - reminds me of my 911 i used to have). Handling was awesome. I do like the other cars as well and there's a bunch of deals going on right now. 1.9% from porsche, 2.9% bmw (5.9% deisel), i think i saw 0.9% for the range rover sport, and i think 2.9%
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Replying to: jcchevy (Jul 09, 2009 10:45 am) the interior is a little bland but its probably the nicest styling of the bunch. the MDX is the best rated and most reliable, best resale value and best overall. but its the safe pick with avg styling which is decent but not exciting like the cayenne. also the price of the cayenne S and x5 4.8 is a huge jump above the mdx. of course they beat it but is the huge jump in price worth 85 more hp for instance? prob not. more fair to compare base cayene and x5 3.0 to the mdx. and the mdx still would beat them for value to price. but again if your looking for passion and status and all that then cayenne s or x5 which id go for the cayenne cus noone really looks at an x5 as that much fancier then an mdx anyway if at all. |
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