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Re: Here's a freshen-up look... [iluvmysephia1] by steve_ HOST
Apr 25, 2009 (8:11 pm)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 25, 2009 5:05 pm)

Kinda has that Darth Vader look going it. Looks grumpy.
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Re: Here's a freshen-up look... [iluvmysephia1] by elgatoloco
Apr 26, 2009 (7:18 am)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 25, 2009 5:05 pm)

Looks good. No way anyone is going to mistake this vehicle for a Toyota! Also, is that an aluminum roof up there? Thought I read something about this concept having one of those to cut weight and improve cornering.
 
About Mitsubishi in the U.S. - I remember a few years ago how the "experts" were saying they were too small a presence to have an impact. Now you read how GM is going to cut like 1200 dealers in the next 3 years, ditto Ford and Chrysler. Everyone is trying to get small.
 
On top of that I think the confirmation that the MIEV would come to the US market was something the dealers HAD to hear. Sure it's a niche car but in this environment you have to reach for every sales possibility. I'd bet that the dealers would have good luck with the Colt and little i car too. Small pickups are going to be making a comeback as well. If I was a dealer I'd tell Mitsu to bring in as much of their stuff as possible, or build it here. Every car dealer will tell you that the first hurdle to more sales is simply to get the customer to walk in the door and check your stuff out. I'm sure the MIEV will help in that regard. I'm thinking that - despite all the concepts out there - either Mitsubishi or Nissan will be the first to offer a viable electric car in the US and just having one of those on the showroom floor is gonna bring in traffic.
 
Sure would be neat to see a Colt Ralliart parked right next to it.
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Re: Here's a freshen-up look... [elgatoloco] by rcpax
Apr 26, 2009 (7:59 am)
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Replying to: elgatoloco (Apr 26, 2009 7:18 am)

"Also, is that an aluminum roof up there? Thought I read something about this concept having one of those to cut weight and improve cornering."
 
The aluminum roof has already been implemented with the 2nd Gen Outlander, starting with the 07 year model up to present.
 
despite all the concepts out there - either Mitsubishi or Nissan will be the first to offer a viable electric car in the US and just having one of those on the showroom floor is gonna bring in traffic.
 
Well, Tesla is here, but it's for CEOs and millionaires, not for the masses. I believe Mitsubishi will be the true global leader with their i-MiEV. And they have been in partnership with various national and commercial electric grids in various parts of the world to test the viability of the i-MiEV in their respective regions (UK, AU, NZ, MC, JP, US to name a few) . I think the first commercial i-MiEV will launch in Japan sometime this year. And definitely US is one market Mitsubishi is focusing at. I just hope that the Normal IL plant gets to build EVs so as to help the US Economy while establishing their market presence here.
 
I remember a few years ago how the "experts" were saying they were too small a presence to have an impact.
 
I think the EV market will be a game changer for Mitsubishi. And all the years of research will eventually pay off. They have skipped the Hybrid models because they knew that EV is the future.
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Re: Here's a freshen-up look... [rcpax] by elgatoloco
Apr 26, 2009 (5:34 pm)
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Replying to: rcpax (Apr 26, 2009 7:59 am)

Absolutely right about Tesla ( I admit they completely slipped my mind when I posted ) Apparently they have a good product but price is somewhere on the far side of $100,000.
 
I have read quite a bit about the MIEV being tested in world markets. They started in Japan about two years ago and in California sometime last summer so naturally they want to get a realistic picture of the battery capabilities. I don't know if the Nissan prototype ( I think it's a Cube ) has had as much drive-time as the MIEV but I doubt they would put it up for sale unless they were pretty confident of its performance. There's some outfit with another EV from Denmark also hanging out in Oregon right now. Pretty sure their products name is "The Think".
 
Don't know what the product plans for the Mitsubishi plant in Illinois are but I know they fought pretty hard the last couple of years to hold onto it. Only production plant in North America they have so I think it would make sense to build some updated models there, to avoid import tariffs at the very least. I'm sure that the North American Dealers would like to keep prices as low and competitive as possible. In fact, I recently read somewhere that Nissan was considering building their EV at their plant in Smyrna Tennessee. Building products in the same country where you plan to sell them might be the ultimate cliche in advertising gimmicks, but it sure works.
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rcpax and elgatoloco... by iluvmysephia1
Apr 26, 2009 (7:16 pm)
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enjoying the discussion on the 2010 Mitsubishi i-MiEV on here. I own a 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS and it is bar none the coolest and funnest car I have owned. The bodystyle of the '08 Lancer GTS and the 1965 Ford Mustang are my two favorite car bodystyles of all time, any era and timeframe. The car just rocks.
 
I also had a change of thinking direction about a year and a half ago. I want an all-electric car, and I see no reason why Mitsubishi shouldn't get my business. I have seen one from a collaboration of two European Company's, called Pininfarina-Bollore, called the BlueCar, that looks interesting. They use a Lithium Metal Polymer battery, claim that test mules have gone 120,000 km's with no problems and no maintenance. The car goes 85 mph top speed(electronically-limited) and has a range of 153 miles. Takes approximately 8 hours to charge up and, of course, P-B is offering a "quick-charge" unit that will charge your BlueCar back up to 80% capacity in about a half hour. I don't have a definite price, but the car will cost somewhere in the $24,000 area. Pininfarina-Bollore is sending some BlueCars to the U.S. in 2009 to three test markets, one being Los Angeles. The main real shipments of this car will come to America in 2010. P-F is serious about this, in claiming that the 2010 BlueCar is not a concept but a true production car. Will it pass all of the safety/crash tests, though? A real question to ponder, but I would love to head the 558 miles west of me here in SE Arizona and go to the L.A. test sampling. I am interested in the car.
 
Further, to say I am interested in a Chinese car might ruffle some feathers. But I am! It is made by BYD(which stands for Build Your Dreams) and is named the e6. It is a crossover that seats 7, goes 99 mph, 0-60 in 8 seconds, weighs around 4,400 pounds, and, here's the pull-point for me, it has a range of 249 miles. With BYD it is Fe(Iron)batteries. I did read earlier today that BYD is deciding to work with VW on knowledge-sharing on these battery systems. I don't know what that might mean regarding BYD and any particular trouble they may be having inegrating their batteries in to their automobiles, but it must mean something. BYD has promised to bring the BYD to the U.S. in 2010 as a 2011 model. Lookit here, we're already up to just about May of 2009, that time will move very quickly.
 
The 2011 BYD e6 is going to cost around $28,000 in USD, but both it and the 2010 Pininfarina-Bollore BlueCar's are subject to BO's "green car" rebates of $7,500. So we'll have to stay tuned as far as pricing goes. And another possible sticking point with me are Warranties(or lack thereof)supporting these new all-electrics.
 
That is something that Mitsu as well as Pininfarina-Bollore and BYD, Think!, etc., are all going to be fighting. The public is not going to immediately embrace this new technology. But large kudos go to Mitsubishi for realizing that hybrids are not the answer for our automotive futures. Hybrids just seem to me to be an expensive alternative to "crutching" along ICE vehicles.
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Re: rcpax and elgatoloco... [iluvmysephia1] by elgatoloco
May 01, 2009 (6:51 pm)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 26, 2009 7:16 pm)

While I think that straight-up EV's might eventually rule the roost it would be quite awhile before medium and large vehicles were as capable as the lightweight versions like the MiEV.
 
I'd like to see Mitsubishi developing plug-in hybrid technology as well. That type of system would really work well on the Lancers, Outlanders, Pajero's etc..
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elgatoloco... by iluvmysephia1
May 02, 2009 (2:39 pm)
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yep, if it was Mitsubishi developing the hybrid I would be all eyes and ears. But Mitsubishi wants to head in the all-EV direction, for now. I would think they are still in the development stage overall for "green" vehicles. Things could change as far as propulsion methods quite a bit in the next couple a years, huh? I think it's a good direction to get off of ICE-driven vehicles ASAP.
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Re: elgatoloco... [iluvmysephia1] by psychogun
May 04, 2009 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (May 02, 2009 2:39 pm)

Actually, Mitsubishi will be selling a plug-in hybrid electric. Unfortunately don't expect it before 2012...
However, watch out for a concept that will showcase their plug-in hybrid technology this fall at the Tokyo Motor Show. Rumors have it, that it will be based on the Concept cX from a few years back.
 
BTW, we're getting a bit off topic here...
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2010 Outlander nose by batman47
May 18, 2009 (3:20 am)
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Mitsubishi Japan also built Outlanders for the European market. Citroen and Peugeot modifies the nose of the Outlander and add Diesel engines.
 
See more Car Pictures at CarSpace.com
 
Although the nose of the 4007 is not exactly of the 2010 Outlander it has a resemblance.
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Re: 2010 Outlander nose [batman47] by chelentano
May 18, 2009 (5:23 am)
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Replying to: batman47 (May 18, 2009 3:20 am)

Yea, I've seen these in Paris. They look real nice

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