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Replying to: stickguy (Nov 02, 2009 11:49 am) see this is where i disagree with you and other folks. look at the 2.5 mazda 3. similiar hp, less torque, and one less cylinder and its rated at LESS mpg at 22/29. and the weight is about the same. why is it that everyone gets up in arms about the golf/rabbit, but not about larger engined cars like the mazda 3 or the 2.4 corolla? and none of those cars offer a 40mpg car like the tdi thats actually peppy. (they offer them without the pep.) |
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It is still lousy mileage for a car this small (those others are actually bigger). Plus, the point you missed, the mazda and toyota also offer a base engine which gets notably better MPG. The S mazda is the sports car of the range, and I doubt the take rate on the 2.4l Corolla is very high. even the mini has a base NA engine to go along with the higher output motor. I would be very happy to see VW come out with an ~2.0l NA motor with al lthe state of the art goodies on it that should blow away the 2.5l ileage, smoothness, and prbably match it's performance. And weigh less too! now, the 1.4l twin charger set up cold be an interesting alternative to the TDI for power/mileage...
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Replying to: stickguy (Nov 03, 2009 12:52 pm) It got horrid mpg for such a small car . About 26 mpg. |
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I "ordered" a Golf TDI about 2 months ago, right when ordering was opened. Here's what I'm told today by my Atlanta dealer: "As of right now VWAG who owns us over here in the US has not released any of the recently ordered Golf's for production. Don't really know why at this point, we have not heard back from anyone in regards to an informed answer to that question. Hope to have at least some info on the subject soon. Your Rabbit (sic) is still sitting in the accepted order status "awaiting production" if you would. At least we are 1 month ahead of people placing an order now, as a line is starting to form." |
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| I was on a waitlist from he_ _ . I got on one early august. my local dealer advised that she wasn't sure she'd see my car until spring at the earliest. i found a similarly configured TDI (minus the Xenons and exact color I wanted) and I jumped on it at another dealer. they hadn't even had it on the lot..it was enroute from texas when I put a deposit down. i recommend calling around and finding a dealer who doesn't have a waitlist to see if they have something you'd like coming in. my dealer told me she will be lucky to see a total of 12 TDI Golfs in the next year. It just isn't profitable for VW to put the TDI engine in a GOLF body...they make a great deal more on the Jetta and Sportwagens. | |
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Replying to: anowlan (Nov 18, 2009 10:16 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 18, 2009 2:32 pm) |
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Replying to: anowlan (Nov 18, 2009 10:16 am) That is in addition to two launch cars that were assigned to us by VW. |
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Replying to: anowlan (Nov 18, 2009 10:16 am) |
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I do not have any inside information on the 2010 Golf TDIs. I strongly suspect that VWoA has loaded up the TDIs with the nav system and lots of other goodies because they cannot make a profit selling a base model. I am not sure if they profit from the 2.5-liter Golfs, no one else gets that engine so maybe it's produced in Mexico and shipped to Europe for assembly, and that enables them to sell those Golfs for a slight profit. At any rate, if there was a lot of profit to be made, VW would be building more and shipping more to North America. The cost of ownership does not include what the car costs when new but it does include how much value it loses in the first three or five years. If you think the demand for 2010 Golf TDIs is much greater than the supply right now, then it should continue in future years -- if you can find one for around MSRP now, then you should lose very little value and your cost of ownership could be extremely low. If the dollar keeps losing value, you might even be able to sell your 2010 Golf TDI for more than it cost when new, if the only alternative is to pay $30k or more for a 2014 model. |
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