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#17 of 26 Re: Opinions will vary.... [berri] by oparr Aug 21, 2009 (12:42 pm)
Replying to: berri (Aug 21, 2009 12:11 pm) Take a look at the wonderful acoustic insulation in the trunk. A joke compared to my '97 and my wife's '96.   Normal; http://www.pbase.com/eldata/image/116331153/large   Closeup (panning required); http://www.pbase.com/eldata/image/116331153/original
#18 of 26 Re: 2010 Toyota Wind Noise /Air Turbulence [jimcar22] by chuckhall Aug 21, 2009 (4:42 pm)
Replying to: jimcar22 (Aug 18, 2009 10:38 am) Worse still, not only does your Camry have the noise you described but my 2008 Lexus 350 (same body style as the Camry) had the same noise. I was really disappointed that Lexus produced a car that had the noise you described. I tried my best to get rid of the noise and could not do it so I got rid of the car.
#19 of 26 2010 Toyota Wind Noise /Air Turbulence by jimcar22 Sep 10, 2009 (7:50 am)
I'm still looking for people who have experienced wind turbulence on their 2006 -2010 Camry's. My encouragement is to write letters and send emails to Toyota Corp. urging them to look harder at the problem and hopefully create a retrofit to reduce or fix the turbulence issue. It is designed in and no amount of adjustments or new rubber molding is going to fix it. If you hate this problem but love the rest of your Camry, ask Toyota to do something about it. So far all I'm getting is lip service and apologies.. It can be improved if they get enough pressure to do it. Let me know if you need phone numbers and addresses.
#20 of 26 Re: Opinions will vary.... [oparr] by doubles3 Sep 12, 2009 (7:14 pm)
Replying to: oparr (Aug 21, 2009 4:08 am) Sorry to hear that.   I have not paid attention to this topic before and was pretty much set to buy XLE V6 which I test drove 4 hours ago. After driving on highway 50-70 mph wind noise was so loud on both sides (driver and passenger) that we walked away from the deal at the end and feel very good that we DID so. I really think it has more to do with body shape, mirror location than anything else. It reminded of 1997 Blazer I owned while ago. Oh man, I was glad when that car was gone ....   The car we were attempting to replace was 2001 Avalon XL with 90K.Super quiet comparing to XLE. You can hear mosquito on the back window when driving.   I guess it all depends where you are coming from. When I made the transition from Blazer to Avalon, it was like going to heaven. I guess if you own a "blazer" now, you may think this is normal. I definitely do not want to go back ....
#21 of 26 Re: 2010 Toyota Wind Noise /Air Turbulence [210delray] by jefarl Oct 16, 2009 (12:59 pm)
Replying to: 210delray (Aug 18, 2009 11:11 am) almost purchased a new 2010 camry XLE today and then lowered the back window and the noise was unbearable at around 25mpg. Either back window or both. Sounded like something was flapping around. If you lower the front window it decreases somewhat. If the rear window(s) is partially open, less of an issue. Salesman said that was caused by the design of the air flow?? tracks or something? Said to drive with windows closed.... ha My 2000 camry does not have this issue. Has anyone esle found the problem to be annoying to the max?? Replies to this message: 210delray (Oct 16, 2009 6:42 pm) wwest (Oct 16, 2009 7:54 pm) oparr (Oct 17, 2009 7:39 am)
#22 of 26 Re: 2010 Toyota Wind Noise /Air Turbulence [jefarl] by 210delray Oct 16, 2009 (6:42 pm)
Replying to: jefarl (Oct 16, 2009 12:59 pm) Yes, this is common in today's cars, and some owner's manuals even refer to it. It's sometimes referred to as "helicoptering" because of the loud, pulsating sound. The solution is to open the front side window diagonally opposite the open rear window. In physics, the phenomenon is known as the Helmholtz effect, the same kind of resonance if you blow across the top of an empty soda or beer bottle.   It's not a problem for me, because I never drive with the rear windows open, usually only the sunroof.
#23 of 26 Re: 2010 Toyota Wind Noise /Air Turbulence [jefarl] by wwest Oct 16, 2009 (7:54 pm)
Replying to: jefarl (Oct 16, 2009 12:59 pm) The more and more these vehicles get sealed, double and even triple door seals an the cabin exhauster port minimized, the higher level the helicoptering noise will rise.
#24 of 26 Re: 2010 Toyota Wind Noise /Air Turbulence [jefarl] by oparr Oct 17, 2009 (7:39 am)
Replying to: jefarl (Oct 16, 2009 12:59 pm) >Has anyone esle found the problem to be annoying to the max??   Not me. Wind noise with a window or windows open is a given IMO. It's wind noise with all windows closed that the OP and subsequent posts were mainly concerned about.   Furthermore, driving with windows open on a highway may be hazardous for your eyes due to flying pebbles. The windshield of my previous Camry has a fracture from one. I would wear goggles in a convertible with the top down....Seriously!
#25 of 26 Road Noise 2005 Camry LE I-4 by jollygreen1 Oct 31, 2009 (10:08 am)
I have Michelin tires and the engine is very quiet. I checked the styrofoam behind the back seats (loosely fitting block) and the styrofoam in the front fenders (see this when doors are opened). The Camry is very quiet on newly asphalted roads, but very noisey on older asphalt and any concrete hiwy. Possibly, the rear fenders are not insulated. A great car other than a rain stick sound in the dash and the noise. Any suggestions on products or fixes? Thanks, Jollygreen1 Replies to this message: oparr (Nov 01, 2009 8:52 am)
#26 of 26 Re: Road Noise 2005 Camry LE I-4 [jollygreen1] by oparr Nov 01, 2009 (8:52 am)
Replying to: jollygreen1 (Oct 31, 2009 10:08 am) >The Camry is very quiet on newly asphalted roads, but very noisey >on older asphalt and any concrete hiwy.   Exactly my findings with the 2009 I have. It's the Michelin MXV4 S8 tires. Drive in a parking garage with the front windows down; it sounds like you're at the seashore during rough seas compared to my previous Camry.   I find those tires also give a very harsh ride at the recommended pressure (32PSI for I-4). One sure way to make a Camry ride like a Corolla. I set mine to 30PSI (recommended for V6). Reduces the road noise too.   >Any suggestions on products or fixes?   Change the tires to address the road noise. You don't need tires rated for 179 MPH and losing 1 MPG for tires with higher RR shouldn't be that big a deal. Alternative is installing better acoustic insulation which is a material and labor intensive exercise.

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