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98 messages, Last post on Dec 02, 2009 at 7:18 PM
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Replying to: volvomax (Aug 11, 2009 4:11 pm) With respect to mileage figures, your list included AWD vehicles in various price and "prestige" levels -- from Ford to BMW, etc. As you pointed out, the estimated highway mpg figures are close for all the vehicles in your list. The BMW X3 is the only one rated 2 mpg better highway than the Volvo XC60 but, as you pointed out, it's smaller than the XC60. In my opinion, the X3 is also cheaply made, especially given its high price. A vehicle you forgot to mention is the 3.5 L V6 AWD Toyota Venza -- the sister of the Lexus RX350. It's rated at 25 mpg highway. Its HP/torque (268/245) are less than those of the AWD Volvo XC60 (281/295), but the Venza (4045 pounds) is also lighter than the XC60 (4225 pounds). Both have their pro's and con's. The safety features on the XC60 are unsurpassed, it feels more solid, and Volvo is a more "luxury" brand than Toyota. But the Venza also has its advantages (mileage, very roomy rear seat, etc.). Both the Volvo XC60 and Toyota Venza are on my "short" list. Cheers. |
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Replying to: yurko (Aug 12, 2009 2:22 pm) Also, the OP insisted that there were larger SUV's that got better mileage than the XC60 and I think I proved that there really aren't any. Finally, if you don't need AWD OR a 281 hp engine, Volvo recently introduced the XC60 3.2 FWD. 27 mpg highway!
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Replying to: volvomax (Aug 14, 2009 4:38 pm) You're correct that one should "compare vehicles of similar size and ability", but vehicles are rarely similar in overall size AND interior room AND engine/transmission/drivetrain characteristics, etc. The Venza has more passenger room ("size") than the XC60, while the AWD XC60 is more off-road capable ("ability") than the AWD Venza. In reality, it is unlikely that one would take either vehicle off-road to any extent. You used the Buick Enclave, Ford Edge, Lincoln MKX, and Lexus RX350 in your post (#35). The Toyota Venza is a poor cousin to the Lexus RX350. And ALL of these are generally referred to as CUV's. In the AWD V6 version, the Venza clearly has the best EPA mileage estimate (25 mpg). And, yes, I'm looking at the XC60 3.2L FWD. 27 mpg highway is very good for that class of vehicle. Cheers. |
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Replying to: volvomax (Aug 14, 2009 4:38 pm) Another question, max, if I may. Is it normal that the liftgate can only be closed manually if the vehicle moves ANY while the hatch is open? This has happened three times that I've let the vehicle move as little as a couple of feet while the hatch is open...then no amount of electronic coaxing can move the hatch...it must be closed manually. BTW, major PITA that the hatch closes ONLY with the button on the liftgate itself rather than on the key fob or dash.(see Lexus on this one!)
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There have been few actual "price paid and buying experience" posts on this thread in the last couple months. To date, I have seen just once an XC60 on the road (I live in SoCal). It makes me wonder how well (or poor) has XC60 been selling. Blame it on economy?
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Replying to: 10scoachrick (Aug 15, 2009 8:42 pm) Well, you have 2 spearate issues. 1 is the weight and drag of the AWD system. 2 is the turbo's effect on fuel efficency. At 2,000 rpm the turbo is turning pretty well into the boost range. At highway speeds you don't want to have to WAIT for the boost to come up for passing, so the engine turns more rpm's. The V8 turns  1800 rpm's at 70 mph for example. Givdn the right circumstances, you should be able to get better than 22 mpg highway. But it would need to be on a level surface where you aren't varying speed and there isn't a headwind. Best I ever did in the XC90 V8 70 mph was 25mpg. That was on the test track. Regarding the hatch, i didn't know that but I am not surprised. No doubt the system has some sort of reset function to prevent that hatch from being inadvertanly opened if the car is moving. The remote is disabled if the car is underway. I agree that you should be able to open AND close the hatch from the remote. |
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Replying to: jtla (Aug 16, 2009 4:07 pm) It's driving me nuts right now. I need some base XC60's. At $33,000 they are a helluva good deal. Volvo closed the factories down twice this year. Once in Feb and again at the end of June. Factories just reopened a couple weeks ago. We'd sell more if we had them.
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I have been looking at the car at three dealers in PA, NJ and NY. So far the best price they can offer is the invoice - $1000 (current market support). How far can I go below this price? Thanks, |
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Replying to: haitink (Aug 23, 2009 3:39 am) |
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Replying to: volvomax (Aug 17, 2009 4:32 pm)
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