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2011 Hyundai Sonata

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Re: Not enamored [jjx456] by fushigi
Sep 27, 2009 (7:25 pm)
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Replying to: jjx456 (Sep 26, 2009 7:20 pm)

The trunk opening looks fine from a height perspective but the length (back to front) still looks too small to me. Again, I'll check it in person before passing final judgment, but so far it's a demerit to me.
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Specs. by bp027
Sep 28, 2009 (6:32 am)
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Has anyone seen any info on the specs. on the 2011 Sonata? Length, wheelbase, trunk size, etc. The trunk size is one of the many things that makes me like the Sonata over the Accord and Celica.
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Re: Specs. [bp027] by dodgeman07
Sep 28, 2009 (10:27 am)
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Replying to: bp027 (Sep 28, 2009 6:32 am)

Has anyone seen any info on the specs on the 2011 Sonata?
 
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I have some "preliminary specs" only:
Vehicle Type: midsize car
Horsepower: 185 (4-cylinder), 260 (V6), 170 (hybrid)
Torque: 175 lb-ft (4-cylinder), 235 (V6), 190 (hybrid)
Transmission: 6-speed manual (4-cylinder) or 6-speed automatic
Wheelbase: 110.5 inches
Length: 193.9 inches
Width: 73.0 inches
Height: 58.0 inches
Base curb weight: 3,275 pounds
 
I'd estimate the trunk volume to drop a touch but still be around 15 cu.ft.
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Re: Specs. [dodgeman07] by backy
Sep 28, 2009 (10:36 am)
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Replying to: dodgeman07 (Sep 28, 2009 10:27 am)

Those really are "preliminary" because Hyundai has already announced the Sonata will get the 200 hp I4 with direct injection in the USA.
 
Since the new car is longer, according to the specs, I don't know why the trunk volume would decrease. If anything, it might increase. But maybe a smaller trunk opening because of the fastback styling.
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Re: Specs. [backy] by dodgeman07
Sep 28, 2009 (11:25 am)
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Replying to: backy (Sep 28, 2009 10:36 am)

Viewing the photos of the new Sonata reveals a lower deck lid than the current version. Probably down 3" across it's 12 sq.ft. area. That's where my estimate comes from. Although they might pick up a couple cubes from length/width increases, they'll likely lose several in vertical dimensions.
 
The current Sonata cargo volume is 16 cu.ft. Not likely the new, lower body style will better that number.
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Re: Specs. [dodgeman07] by dnbb
Oct 05, 2009 (11:32 am)
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Replying to: dodgeman07 (Sep 28, 2009 10:27 am)

I do know the actual specs but from what I've seen the trunk looks to be about the same both opening size and volume. The power numbers you put are a little low, and I've heard they will have around 20-25 hp over the current model. There will be no v-6, both engines will be 4 cyl, one NA and one turbo charged. The cars should be hitting dealers in early 2010.
 
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Test Drive: 2011 Hyundai Sonata Y20 [Korean-Spec] by jjx456
Oct 05, 2009 (1:58 pm)
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http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/test-drive-2011-hyundai-sonata-y20-korean-spec/-
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2011 Sonata V6 Nixed! by the_pill
Oct 28, 2009 (6:32 pm)
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I have learned that Hyundai USA will in fact be launching the 2011 Sonata without a V6. So there will be just two 4cyl powerplants to choose from, a 2.0 and a 2.4. The U.S. spec’d 2.0 is rumored to arrive with 197 horses while the 2.4 is supposed to wring out approximately 240 horses. Good numbers no doubt for 4 cylinders but the question is at what cost?
 
Certainly improved MPG numbers are undoubtedly the major benefit but what about those zero to 60 times? The current 4 cylinder mill can gallop to sixty in a leisurely 9.8 seconds. I know we’re talking family sedans here but anything over 8 seconds on the upcoming base 2.0 4 cylinder will be borderline pathetic.
 
I’m also very curious about the interior material quality. For example, will the glove box be lined and dampened like the current model? I know this seems like a small detail but small details like this often get in the way of car brands that set the standard instead of being defined by it.
 
So far, I’ve only read one write up from a non-South Korean first drive impression which made mention of slight wind noise around 70 or 80 MPH, mind you this was a KDM version, or perhaps due to aerodynamics and because the car is so quiet. Still, the writer’s opinion was that the car did make a very positive impression overall and drove and felt miles better than the current outgoing model.
 
I think my two concerns regarding the 4 cylinder only engines are NVH (noise, vibration, harshness) compared to the current 2.4 175 horsepower engine. The current 2009 Sonata’s curb weight as equipped is 3,299 lbs, so it means that this new model can't tip the scales any higher otherwise it will risk the mileage penalty. Also the so called suspension “clunk” some owners have complained of will have better be properly sorted. According to some experts, the so-called clunk is nothing more than suspension noise that can be muted with sufficient dampening insulation. We'll see.
 
It would serve Hyundai well to churn out 3 more horses from their base 2.0 leader engine to an even 200 which they could use to position above all its segment competitors and then push the premium 2.4. To no ones surprise, Hyundai has remained deliberately tight lipped about the upcoming powertrain options.
 
According to Hyundai based on sales of the current model: 85 percent for the 4 cylinder versus 15 percent for the 6, so it makes more sense to only offer a 4. But Hyundai has never built a car like the upcoming 6th generation Sonata. I think its risky and outright timid not to offer even the option of the 6 unless they have planned an SE turbo to put down a quite doable 265 horses at the front wheels. If not, this will be a major weakness in an otherwise great looking car.
 
We will soon learn whether Japan’s top brands, Toyota and Honda, responds to Hyundai’s decision, and moves to match the 4 banger only offerings within this segment or will they offer more improved efficiencies in their sixes which would then undermine Hyundai’s drive to be the global king of Green?
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Re: 2011 Sonata V6 Nixed! [the_pill] by poodog13
Oct 29, 2009 (5:51 am)
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Replying to: the_pill (Oct 28, 2009 6:32 pm)

If this is indeed true, then the Sonata is off of my list.
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Re: 2011 Sonata V6 Nixed! [poodog13] by fushigi
Oct 29, 2009 (10:35 am)
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Replying to: poodog13 (Oct 29, 2009 5:51 am)

Agreed. I don't mind losing an MPG or two for the added HP, torque, and improved NVH of a V6.

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