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Hyundai Sonata, Future Vehicle, Sedan
#77 of 5331 Re: Not enamored [backy]
Sep 23, 2009 (12:09 pm)
I have a minivan, too (in fact, I currently own FIVE automobiles... the minivan gets driven occasionally, but with 180K miles, I try now to save it for when I take the Boy Scouts out (I'm a leader in my troop))
1989 Camaro RS V8 all options, 92K miles
1996 Plymouth Voyager Ralley, SWB, V6 180K
2003 Sonata GLS V-6 with all options, 112K
2008 Kia Rio5 9K miles (my son's new car, replaced his 1993 Mercury Tracer with 321K miles)
2009 Sonata GLS I-4 Auto with PEP 9K miles
Yes, we put a LOT of mileage on cars, and tend to run them until they die.
Big point is, Hyundai recently "won" my family for Hyundai and Kia cars, back shortly before we got our 2003 Sonata. Our next car will almost certainly be another Sonata, in about 4-5 years... unless the Sonata is no longer the Sonata. And the 2011 isn't a Sonata anymore, it's something different.
I guess we'll disagree on whether it's a good move, but I'm not a fan of the 2011. It might be a wonderful car, but it's not designed for the same market niche as the old Sonata.
#78 of 5331 Re: Not enamored [billward]
Sep 23, 2009 (3:59 pm)
Yeah, the minivan comes in handy hauling those Scouts and gear to camp, Eagle projects etc., doesn't it?
I think there's a Sonata badge on the 2011 model. Times change. I hated the looks of the 2001 Elantra when it first came out, it was such a radical departure from the 2000 model. But after awhile it grew on me... and I eventually bought two from that generation.
#79 of 5331 Re: Not enamored [backy]
Sep 24, 2009 (3:59 am)
Yes, indeed, minivans are great for hauling scouts. Going in two weeks to Camp Pipsico (the Tidewater BSA's "Council Campground" with the boys, that will be the longest trip I've taken the minivan on in two months.
I actually think the 2000 model redesign of the Elantra was quite striking, as a "small sedan" style. I like the new style, too (almost bought an Elantra Touring instead of the 2009 Sonata), but it's one of those cases where they could have kept the old style for a lot longer and still kept it "fresh". I think the 2006 style Sonata could have been kept fresh for another 4-5 model years, as it's really quite attractive.
Ah well, maybe you're right, maybe the 2011 will grow on me. Right now, I don't care for the looks, but if it's safe, reliable, comfortable, and economical, it probably won't matter much in the end.
#80 of 5331 Re: Not enamored [fushigi]
Sep 24, 2009 (11:00 am)
We don't even know what the specs are for the new Sonata yet, so let's all keep an open mind. It probably will have one of the best, if not best, size trunks offered. Only thing I'm really concerned about is rather or not we will get all of the available options that the Korean version has. Would be a shame if we didn't, those fold away mirrors are quite sleek.
#81 of 5331 Re: Not enamored [billward]
Sep 24, 2009 (2:00 pm)
I have the XD Elantra and I've been more than surprised with what I got for the money. I would like to upgrade to a mid-sized or larger vehicle but don't really care for the looks of the current Elantra. I do like the 2006-20010 Sonata's looks but I do think it's up for a total overhaul in design.
I don't really know what to think about the new 2011 design because I haven't seen it in the flesh(or metal). I do like the back design and the front looks interesting and quite good from some angles. But definitely, it's a polarizing design. The current design is much safer and some may say, "quite boring."
I think Camry's are quite obnoxious due to the fact that they're everywhere. Accords have a classy look without trying to hard, but it's very boxy. The new Sonata doesn't look like those two so I like the fact that they're going a different direction. I just wish they kept some of the current design's features.
Anyhow, I'm excited to see what it looks like when it gets here! The Tuscan and the Sonata shows that Hyundai's serious about their new designs. I guess you can't call them boring anymore. And if they continue on being reliable, safe, comfortable, and economical vehicles, I don't think they'll drop off anytime soon.
#82 of 5331 2011 - The Year They Took Market Share
Sep 24, 2009 (4:38 pm)
I think they are shooting for a younger demo of car buyers. I believe to have read that the average age of Hyundai car buyers is around 50ish, perhaps 54-56. They can take it down a couple of generations with this style choice. Personally I own a 2009 Sonata and I'm much younger then that demo (Great car BTW, zero issues after one year). The 2011 is growing on me but finally judgment will be here when I see it in person. I dunno I don't feel the shots I'm seeing aren't giving me a clear picture of what to expect. Its like the "Usual Suspects"...It all makes sense when you look at it right. You gotta, like stand back from it, you know?
#83 of 5331 Re: Not enamored [LASHAWN]
Sep 24, 2009 (4:44 pm)
I'll definitely check it out in person sometime after it makes it to dealer lots, but the pics don't give me much hope that the trunk, however cavernous it may be on the inside, has an opening sufficient for my needs.
#84 of 5331 Re: Not enamored [fushigi]
Sep 25, 2009 (4:21 am)
I agree with that. If it isn't possible to put something into the trunk, because of the lack of opening, it doesn't make much difference how much space is on the inside. I know many items because of the bulk are not able to get into many of today's trunks. Before someone comes back with it, there are many smaller items that would still fit, but try putting a large microwave, or any large box, or TV into the trunk before you comment on that lack of opening available, they sometimes just don't fit.
#85 of 5331 Re: Not enamored [lightfootfl]
Sep 25, 2009 (2:14 pm)
I haven't been able to get items like that into the trunk of a sedan for many years (maybe an HD TV lying flat, but I haven't tried that). That's why I love hatchbacks, like my Elantra GT and Rabbit. Plus I have the minivan for the really big stuff (Stow N' Go is one of Chrysler's greatest inventions, IMO). That being said, my oldest son takes my 2000 626 to college and was able to take everything he needs in that car, even though it's not that roomy by modern standards. He also needed two trips. But he hauled a LOT of stuff.
Besides the trunk opening, another key factor for hauling capacity is the opening behind the back seats. It's much smaller on some sedans than on others, and also on some sedans the rear seats fold flat or almost flat, and on some they stick up so much it greatly reduces utility. So check those things too when you look at the new Sonata.