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#637 of 5331 Re: New Sonata Limited owner. [herbie10]
Feb 20, 2010 (11:05 pm)
Okay, yesterday (Saturday) I had a chance to check out and drive a 2011 Sonata GLS with the PEP.
I will be brutally honest.
***Disclaimer - I do NOT know if Hyundai fixed the suspension Kthunk issue as the test drive near the dealer had all very smooth roads. I tried to find a bumpy or rough road but there simply were none.
The exterior design is the best feature of the new Sonata but, as most things in life, there is a trade-off for that: a smaller backseat than the 2010 model.
The interior looks very nice, but I found the door panel, door handle (interior) and some of the plastics and switchgear disappointing - but not necessarily in comparison to other cars in its price range; rather, in comparison to the 2010 model.
I find that in the effort to reduce weight and manufacturing costs, Hyundai and almost all other brands (Toyota and Chrysler especially) are really using light weight, flimsy and sometimes very tacky materials for things like door pulls and console trim (can we please stop getting faux aluminum that is really poorly painted and cheap feeling plastic?).
The 2011 Hyundai drove nicely, but not so much better than the 2010 version that it is noteworthy, IMO. The transmission had an annoying tendency to hang on too long before downshifting, and this is probably geared this way in the interest of fuel economy. Road noise was actually worse than the 2010 version, and the suspension was somewhat tauter with better damping.
I did very much like the instruments and background and ambient lighting. Kudos to Hyundai for hitting the mark on color choices in this area.
I found the main control for the heating/cooling gimicky.
As with the Volkswagen CC, rear headroom suffers in the 2011 model. That's the price to be paid for the swoopy roof.
The engine noise seemed well supressed and the engine note pleasant for a 4 banger.
In summary, I would not pay MSRP or even a slightly discounted amount for this Sonata as I feel that once the novelty wears off, Hyundai will need to resort to higher subsidies and incentives in this most competitive of all car segments, especially at a time when many new models are going to be rolling out from competitors.
This is only my opinion. The 2011 Hyundai is not a major, but rather an incremental, leap forward. The biggest pluses are the exterior design, the bump in horsepower using the 4 cylinder, the fuel economy (if EPA estimates turn out to be remotely close)
If one likes a soft, quiet ride, the last generation actually might be a better fit. If one likes a more tied down, firmly damped suspension, with a sleek exterior, the 2011 makes the 2010 version dowdy by comparison.
Finally, and this is not Hyundai specific, but I am very disappointed with the quality of interior bits, pieces, controls and switchgear in almost all newer cars, from Toyota to Mercedes. I find that mid-90's era Honda and Toyotas, mid-80's era Mercedes and BMWs, and early 2000 Lexus' and absolutely shame their more modern offspring in this regard.
#638 of 5331 LOOKING FOR SONATA 2011
Feb 21, 2010 (4:05 am)
Does anyone know from the Central Florida area where I can buy the 2011 Hyundai Sonata SE, PACIFIC BLUE PEARL color?
#639 of 5331 Re: New Sonata Limited owner. [caseybru]
Feb 21, 2010 (5:17 am)
Thanks.... I couldn't find "optimo's" in the performance category at the Hankook website. Having the specific number helps.
#640 of 5331 Re: New Sonata Limited owner. [mikemartin]
Feb 21, 2010 (5:45 am)
Well, in many ways the interior bits of my 2004 Elantra are superior to those in newer cars like the 2011 Sonata. Almost all the interior trim pieces of my Elantra are padded, for example. But that is the price we pay for paying about the same price today for a Sonata GLS than what we paid 20 years ago, adjusted for inflation, for a far better car--a few interior bits excepted.
I also find the color of the interior makes a difference. To me the all-black interior looks cheap on the Sonata, especially with the SE's black metal-grain trim and cloth inserts. But take the camel interior with (I think) nicer cloth, or leather, and woodgrain trim to dress things up a bit, and it's easier to forget that most of the plastic surfaces are hard to the touch. Besides, we almost never touch those hard plastic pieces except when we're test driving the car.
I was over at my local Hyundai dealer looking for a used car yesterday because our 2007 Sonata might be totaled by the insurance company (hit in the rear last week). A 60-ish woman was drooling over the pearl white SE on the showfloor. I told her, "You'd look good in that." She said, "I know!". Don't know if she bought it though. That is the only 2011 my local dealer has right now. They are not having any problems selling them despite a $599 window sticker for paint protection etc. (Ah, those memories of Honda and Toyota in the '80s and '90s.)
#641 of 5331 Re: Another new 2011 Hyundai Sonata Owner [wrelessb]
Feb 21, 2010 (6:04 am)
Argh. That's my dealer and they said they didn't take deliveries on weekends and I would have to wait until Monday. Your post means they have my car now.
#642 of 5331 Re: Purchase price of Hyundai Sonata 2011 Limited [tripig]
Feb 21, 2010 (7:02 am)
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#632 of 641
Purchase price of Hyundai Sonata 2011 Limited by tripig
Feb 20, 2010 (6:46 pm)
Just took home a 2011 Sonata Limited for 1000 under invoice from Rosen Hyundai in suburban Chicago. Very easy to deal with. Fantastic car! You won't be disappointed!
Please post MSRP and Price paid before Tax lic title and doc.
#644 of 5331 Invoice
Feb 21, 2010 (9:41 am)
With the kind of deals customers are getting, one conclusion is that the invoice is padded quite a bit. Why would a dealer sell a new model that has a decent demand for a loss? Answer: They wouldn't.
Feb 21, 2010 (9:47 am)
I will test drive one in a couple of weeks but in reading through the brochure, it seems that on the GLS there's no option package that includes a sunroof. On the SE the sunroof is tied to the Nav. I don't want the manufacturer's Nav system (don't want to pay for it) but really do want a sunroof, as I enjoy it so much on my '06 GLS. I understand the difficulties for manufacturers to allow each item to be a separate option but these built in Nav systems really are just a huge profit center. I know few people who feel their built-in works better than a $200 Garmin.
When purchasing my current car, I almost didn't even try Hyundai. For this next purchase the 2011 Sonata would have been the only choice. However, with the few option packages offered, I guess I'll also look at Honda, Toyota, etc.
#646 of 5331 Re: Options [osaka75]
Feb 21, 2010 (10:07 am)
However, with the few option packages offered, I guess I'll also look at Honda, Toyota, etc.
So you think the Accord is better re availability of a moonroof, because you have to buy the highest level trim, EX, before you can even get a moonroof? At least a moonroof is available in the SE. And standard on the highest-level trim, the Limited--kinda like the standard moonroof on the Accord EX.
On the Camry, you can't get a moonroof on the base trim but can get one on the LE and higher trims. You can probably get a real good deal on a 2010 Camry right now.