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#230 of 5326 Re: 2011 Sonata at Detroit Auto Show [m6user]
by caseybru
Jan 23, 2010 (7:29 am)
http://paultan.org/2008/11/21/new-hyundai-20l-theta-gdi-turbo-engine/
Hyundai has developed a new turbocharged gasoline direct injection version of its Theta family engine. The Theta family is essentially a derivative of the GEMA World Engine project, a joint venture between Hyundai-Kia, Chrysler and Mitsubishi. It comes in 1.8, 2.0 and 2.4 liter sizes.
Derivatives of the GEMA engine found in cars sold in Malaysia include the Kia Optima 2.0, the Naza Citra II Rondo, the Mitsubishi Lancer and the Lancer Evolution. There have already been two turbocharged applications of GEMA derivatives in the market, a 2.4 liter turbo by Chrysler and a 2.0 turbo by Mitsubishi found in the Lancer Evolution.
Hyundai claims their Theta Turbo GDI engine has a capacity for up to 286 horsepower so far. Other than gasoline direct injection, it also features continuous variable valve timing. Various states of tune will probably be available – perhaps 200hp, 240hp and 286hp versions depending on the car its installed in.
#231 of 5326 Re: 2011 Sonata [jnrus]
by 8babies1dog
Jan 23, 2010 (7:35 am)
This may be interesting to you, go to this site.
Hyundai Motor Manufacturing Alabama; LLC.
under it click on tours, by manufacturing plant choose (manufacturing
process) and then scroll down and watch video.
I bought the SE V6 several months ago, nice vehicles!!
good luck with yours
#232 of 5326 Re: 2011 Sonata at Detroit Auto Show [caseybru]
by m6user
Jan 23, 2010 (8:26 am)
Hellooooh, that link was posted a couple of posts back but thanks for posting it again. Like I said, I know what the engine may be possible to produce and all that. All I'm saying is that, to my knowledge, Hyundai has not announced how much hp they are going to produce off this engine for the Sonata. I highly doubt they will put out 280+ hp. That would probably require premium fuel, get lower mpg than they want for CAFE and possibly suck some sales from their Genesis line.
#234 of 5326 Re: 2011 Sonata at Detroit Auto Show [splx]
by m6user
Jan 23, 2010 (7:07 pm)
No, I the articles that were linked before definitively stated that they can produce 286 hp from the engine. The question is: How much hp will the Sonata end up having. I hadn't seen that quote before and if it's true then your estimate of 260-280 may be right on. Beating the torque of the late V6 won't be hard as the turbos always have tons of torque but I'm still am of the opinion that it will be no more than about 260hp, maybe 265 but that is just an educated guess as yours is. We'll see. If they do get 280hp and keep good mpg and still use regular gas that would be something unless they price it too high.
#235 of 5326 Re: 2011 Sonata at Detroit Auto Show [m6user]
by jaimeson
Jan 23, 2010 (7:34 pm)
You may be right about the new Sonata's handling, but judging from reviews of the new Tucson you might be wrong. Many reviewers really like the new firm ride, others think it's a little harsh, but pretty much all reviews have agreed that the handling is quite nice, with great dynamics (e.g. body roll control, etc).
#236 of 5326 Re: 2011 Sonata at Detroit Auto Show [jaimeson]
by carbunt
Jan 24, 2010 (4:50 am)
As someone who recently toured Hyundai's Alabama plant and saw the 2011 Sonata, Hyundai is being real cagey about the final numbers but all I can tell you is that the 250-265 horsepower range with the turbo is right in the ball park.
#237 of 5326 Re: 2011 Sonata at Detroit Auto Show [jaimeson]
by m6user
Jan 24, 2010 (12:16 pm)
I would be shocked if the new '11 Sonata's handling is anything close to a Mazda6 from the 2003-2008 time frame. It may be closer to the new Mazda6 which has softened their ride a little bit but probably still will be slightly softer. If it's not, then I will have been wrong which has certainly happened before. We are all guessing here as nobody has driven one yet. I'm making an educated guess. Just because the Tucson may be a little tighter ride doesn't mean the Sonata is suddenly becoming a sport sedan. That's like saying the new Chevy Equinox rides firmer than before so obviously the new Impala will be a sports sedan now. Could be but highly unlikely. At least I'm willing to go out on a limb and state my opinion, wrong as it could be, and I'll be the first one to admit it if I'm wrong.
#238 of 5326 Post if you see one!
by Jason5
Jan 25, 2010 (8:10 pm)
Thought I was "hooked" on a 2010 or 2011 Mazda 6 with the 2.5 as an second vehicle to my larger SUV. When I first saw the 2011 Sonata teasers (and off-shore sites) I wasn't sold on the styling but the powertrain certainly got, and continues to hold, my attention. I've seen several post saying the turbo would be 2.4 and I can't help but think that it would a better choice than a more high strung 2.0 liter turbo. Guess we'll have to see.
Someone PLEASE send up a flare on here when you see on a lot and give the location. I certainly will!
#239 of 5326 Re: Post if you see one! [Jason5]
by marvin6
Jan 25, 2010 (8:27 pm)
I, too, believe there is a good chance the turbo will be the 2.4 simply because that engine (2.4) is made in Alabama. It wouldn't make a lot of sense to have an engine plant in the factory that assembles the cars, then import other engines for those cars. But who knows? I was initially interested in a sonata until I saw no V6 option and I wrote it off. With a turbo, I may hold off on purchasing until the 4 cyl turbo is on the market.