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#153 of 5326 Disappearing back sets
Dec 12, 2009 (8:34 pm)
Go to the Hyundai website and check the specs on the 2011 Sonata, It has approx. 3 inches less back set leg room than the current model. Just like Nissan did with the Altima when it redesigned in 2007, greatly reducing back set room, especially leg room. It seems like all the re-designs (the new Ford Taurus being another example) are making backsets that are not functional for adults. I would really like to find a reliable true family car with good mileage that had a back set for adults, rather than ones that will not fit any male members of my family except for my 1 year old grandson.
#154 of 5326 Re: Disappearing back sets [dconnor]
Dec 13, 2009 (6:05 am)
Dconner, What your missing is the fact that the rear leg-room spec is in fact smaller than the current generation however the front legroom spec is greater by a similar amount. Nothing more than front seat adjustability then correct?
#155 of 5326 Re: Disappearing back sets [craigmri]
Dec 13, 2009 (6:15 am)
Interesting. I think craig is probably right--if you just scoot up your front seat a little, you'll probably get about as much legroom in back as the current Sonata--in other words quite good.
I think the 2011 Sonata looks great. I hope they've sharped up the handing to match up with the sleek styling. The handling on the current generation is generally considered below Accord, Altima, Mazda 6, etc. Still a good ride, but generally on the comfy squishy side rather than sporty. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but I'm one of the ones who prefers a slightly sporty ride. Not too harsh, mind you, just a balance of sport and comfort.
For the earlier person looking for a good back seat in a family sedan, I recommend the Honda Accord. I believe it has perhaps the biggest back seat in its segment. If you skip the sunroof, and get an LX or LXP model, the headroom is quite generous. I have an Accord EXL, which has the sunroof, but even with that headroom in back is quite good--adult sized. And in any case, legroom is quite good on the Accord.
The new Sonata looks to be just about as big as the Accord in the cabin--and the new Sonata has a significantly bigger trunk than the Accord. The Accord's trunk is c. 14 cu ft, while the 2011 Sonata is 16.
#156 of 5326 Re: Disappearing back sets [dconnor]
Dec 13, 2009 (8:26 am)
I don't know if your in the market for a new car now but the 2009/2010
Sonata would be a good choice "IMO". It is rated as a large car w/ room
for 5 adults "I have no trouble doing that in ours". The 09 & 10 are exactly
the same, and I would say pretty soon they will try to push them out the
door to make room f/ 2011. My idea is, we already know what the track
record is on the 09/2010, but it remains to be seen about the 2011. The
car I have is the 2009SE w/ V6 "not knocking the I4" another fine Hyundai
product" my preference was the V6. and I think a fine good looking car
and one of the best ride and handling cars I've ever had, besides having
good HP if needed and probably close to the best MPG in the V6 midsize
class. It's all "IMO" thing.
I forgot to say I think the 2011 may be one of the prettiest cars I've seen in
many years "a real head turner IMO". It may send most of the midsize car
makers back to the drawing board! I will be one of the first to go see it in
person, I hate to think of getting rid of my 2009 !!!! HA HA
Dec 13, 2009 (2:01 pm)
My guess is that the Azera will eventually no longer be made in a couple of years.
#158 of 5326 Re: Azera [jason50]
Dec 13, 2009 (5:41 pm)
I'll have to agree with you on that, Azera is a very nice car I glanced over it,
but the Sonata SE has exactly what I wanted. It seems like Hyundai themselfs
squeezed it out, not much room left between the Sonata and the Genesis. I'm
not to crazy about the 2011 Sonata getting smaller, not much smaller but it
#159 of 5326 Re: Azera [8babies1dog]
Dec 13, 2009 (7:42 pm)
I'm not sure, but I think maybe the 2011 Sonata loses about an inch of rear headroom compared to the current model. Otherwise I think it's pretty close to the same...
#160 of 5326 Re: Disappearing back sets [benjaminh]
Dec 13, 2009 (8:10 pm)
Just a few dimensions they may interest someone.
2009 Accord sedan (in the rear) shoulder 56.4"/ head 38.5"/ hip 54.3/ leg 37.2
2009 Sonata " " shoulder 56.9"/ head 38.2"/ hip 55.5/ leg 43.7
2011 Sonata " " shoulder 56.7"/ head 37.8"/ hip 54.9/ leg 34.6
Another observation; EPA class size rating
Accord total interior volume 115 cu ft EPA large
Camry " " " 116.4 cu ft EPA midsize
Altima " " " 116 cu ft EPA midsize
Mazda6 " " " 118.9 cu ft EPA midsize
Malibu " " " 112.8 cu ft EPA midsize
Fusion " " " 116.2 cu ft EPA midsize
Sonata " " " 121.8 cu ft EPA large
2011 Sonata " " 120.2 cu ft EPA ?????
Avalon " " " 120.9 cu ft EPA large
Aura " " " 113 cu ft EPA midsize
Acura TL " " " 111.3 cu ft EPA midsize
Infiniti G37 " " 99.0 cu ft EPA compact
Audi A4 " " 107.0 cu ft EPA compact
Lexus ES350 " " 110.1 cu ft EPA compact
Is there anything strange about those ratings? Accord has a smaller I.V. than
the Camry, Altima, Mazda6, & Fusion, how is it rated large?
Only goes to show EPA has faults about ratings.
This has nothing to do with knocking any above mentioned car, I would love to
have them all, just a hobby.
#161 of 5326 Re: Disappearing back sets [8babies1dog]
Dec 13, 2009 (8:57 pm)
Not sure where you are getting this info, but the Accord's total interior volume is 120 cubic feet, w/o moonroof (LX/LX-P), hence it's just over the "large car" line... as is the 2011 Sonata at 120.2.
Also, your figures for the 2009 vs. 2011 Sonata look suspect--I doubt there's a 9 inch difference in legroom. Are you sure you aren't comparing the front leg room in the 2009 with the rear leg room of the 2011?
#162 of 5326 Re: Disappearing back sets [backy]
Dec 14, 2009 (7:02 am)
Your right on the Accord total interior volume 120 cu ft, sorry for the
confusion, I may have listed I.V. for the coupe? Also the rear leg room
on the 2009 Sonata 37.4 which is about 3" more than 2011 Sonata.
Some sites have conflicting reports.
I still think EPA ratings are not perfect, and I don't claim to be either.
My eye sight is not getting any better with age, if I stand to be corrected
please do so, the info we share may be useful to someone besides
Good eye backy!