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#1489 of 5331 Re: 2010 Hyundai Sonata [backy]
Mar 17, 2010 (8:03 am)
I just bought the Sonata 2011 SE and it is great and the warranty cannot be touched.I have owned Nissan Altimas since 1999 with the latest being a 2003 both new.Very little maintenance on them but I switched to a Hyundai because of the nice body design on the 2011 SE and the included features-heated outside mirrors, standard, six air bags, highest crash test ratings, 199 horsepower and highest mileage for a 4 cylinder non hybrid motor, etc, etc-I recommend it highly.
#1490 of 5331 Re: Sonata 2011 vs Altima 2010 [busterbrit]
Mar 17, 2010 (11:22 am)
Usually, it's a good idea to wait out the 1st model year or at least wait 6 months into production of a new gen/model.
Considering that the Sonata has been available in Korea for some time, it seems to be a safer bet than if Hyundai had released the Sonata to all of its markets at the same time.
#1491 of 5331 Re: Sonata 2011 vs Altima 2010 [m6user]
Mar 17, 2010 (11:37 am)
It's true that only a few fringe manufacturers still limit the powertrain warranty to 36000 like Bentley and Lotus, but most mainsteam competitors only offer a 3yr/36000 mile warranty and 5yr/50000 mile powertrain. These include Honda, Nissan, Toyota, Volkswagen, and Ford. Even Mercedes maxes out at 5yr/50000 - which I think is crazy.
If their products break down so much less than the supposedly crap quality Hyundai's, why wouldn't they offer a better warranty? Wouldn't it end up costing them less in the end with fewer repairs necessary? Very few other manufacturers offer anything much better.
Chevy/Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep have 3/36K bumper to bumper and unlimited powertrain. Maybe this is their apology for the Cobalt, Aveo, Avenger, Sebring, and every other horrible car they have made under $25K. Even with those brands, the bumper to bumper warranty on a Hyundai or Kia is 40% longer, and you get unlimited roadside assistance for 5 years, on top of usually paying less to begin with.
http://www.cars.com/go/advice/Story.jsp?section=buy&subject=warranty&story=manWa- - - rranty
#1492 of 5331 Audio System Quality Question
Mar 17, 2010 (11:46 am)
Does the Infinity upgraded audio system sound much better than the Dimension system?
#1493 of 5331 Re: Sonata 2011 vs Altima 2010 [syitalian25]
Mar 17, 2010 (11:55 am)
only a few fringe manufacturers still limit the powertrain warranty to 36000 like Bentley and Lotus
Yeah, that's what I thought. I don't think too many people cross shop Bentley and Lotus versus Hyundai.
GM powertrain is 5yrs/100k and I think Chrysler stopped that lifetime powertrain warranty business cause Fiat didn't like it. I think Mitsubishi is the only other(besides Kia of course) to offer a similar warranty to Hyundai. They went to that a few years ago when they just about went out of business here in states to build some confidence.
If you remember, Hyundai began offering this warranty when the Excel totally bombed and Hyundai was the laughing stock of the automotive world in the US. I'm wondering if Hyundai will eventually scale back their warranty since confidence is building in their product and they might not need it to convince people to shop them. The bean counters don't usually like to keep those liabilities on the books and that is what a 10 yr warranty is.
#1494 of 5331 Re: Turbo [craigmri]
Mar 17, 2010 (12:23 pm)
I too am waiting on the Sonata Turbo. I plan on purchasing it around Oct.
#1495 of 5331 Re: Sonata 2011 vs Altima 2010 [m6user]
Mar 17, 2010 (2:12 pm)
Yeah that is definitely why Hyundai started the warranty originally, but it would look pretty bad for them to retract it. And I think consumer confidence is still one of the weakest points of the company, particularly among people who haven't owned a Hyundai recently. There are old school people who will only buy American cars because they think the quality is above and beyond the Asian brands, and they can't get over the image Hyundai had in 1985 (rightfully so) as being a cheap, unreliable brand.
Other manufacturers have used the same tactic to increase confidence, and it has worked. But if 50/100 Hyundais (theortically) needed a repair in the first 100,000 miles but only 30/100 Toyotas needed the same, wouldn't that be a big cost advantage to Toyota? I think Honda, Toyota, and the like are simply stingy and have no problem charging more money for less value because "Hey it's a (insert overpriced manufacturer name here)".
#1496 of 5331 Re: Sonata 2011 vs Altima 2010 [syitalian25]
Mar 17, 2010 (2:54 pm)
None of these companies are offering a longer warranty than the big players because their products are better. They may as good or better, but that's not why the warranties are being offered. It's because they have to generate confidence to sell cars.
God forbid if Hyundai were to have any kind of major hiccup like Toyota is having....long warranty or not. Not wishing it or thinking it will happen but you can just imagine the fallout. Look at what is happening to Toyota, the brand that was #1 in perception of quality and considered bulletproof. If something like that happened to Hyundai it would be a disaster. Toyota will probably pull through this thing though.
#1497 of 5331 Re: Sonata 2011 vs Altima 2010 [m6user]
Mar 17, 2010 (3:04 pm)
Thanks everyone for your thoughts. I'm going to test drive both again tomorrow and then make my final decision. I'm definilty leaning towards the Sonata.
Mar 17, 2010 (3:12 pm)
I'm looking at getting the silver with grey leather. I just read someone thought it looked much better with black. My only thought is that I live in So. Cal. and the black will get really hot.
Have you seen the grey leather on this car? How does it look?
Would black get a lot hotter than the grey or is that an old wives tale?