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#1 of 62 2010 Mercedes E-Class by hpmctorque Mar 09, 2009 (3:58 pm)
It's a nice looking car, but Mercedes and other luxury car brands have gone overboard with electronic features, for my taste.   I wish Mercedes offered a decently equipped, lower cost version of the new E-Class, with equipment on the order of, say, a 2000 model. Replies to this message: vicv (Mar 19, 2009 6:02 pm) goatrope (May 21, 2009 11:40 am) hpmctorque (May 23, 2009 3:57 am) turnten (Jun 08, 2009 11:05 am) missadams1 (Jul 14, 2009 6:32 am)
#2 of 62 Re: 2010 Mercedes E-Class [hpmctorque] by vicv Mar 19, 2009 (6:02 pm)
Replying to: hpmctorque (Mar 09, 2009 3:58 pm) We've been looking at the 2010 E-class (W-212) to replace my wife's 04 E. Don't mind the electronic whiz-bangs, but I do have two problems. The first is that other manufacturers have direct injection engines available in the US market now and more, such as even Buick, will in 2010. MB is offering the W-212 with the present MPFI 268 hp engine while, as I understand it, they have a DI 3.5 available in other markets and other cars. The second problem is that they charge nearly a grand for metallic paint while BMW, Lexus, etc don't. You gotta wonder if they really think they're going to sell many of the the new W-212s in the US market in the present economic climate when they don't give their customers the very best. Because of that, we're seriously looking at the BMW 535. For siginficantly less dinero than a base W-212 with paint, we can buy a 535 (comes with a 300 hp bi-turbo six with DI) and have it equipped with the premium and cold weather packages.   We really want a new W-212, but will not get ripped off by the folks in Sindelfingen. So I hope the decision makers over there really rethink their offerings. It's very hard to get a customer back once you've lost him. Replies to this message: goatrope (May 21, 2009 11:40 am) hpmctorque (May 23, 2009 3:57 am)
#3 of 62 Re: 2010 Mercedes E-Class [vicv] by hpmctorque Mar 19, 2009 (7:14 pm)
Since first year new generation models usually sell well, mercedes may be saving the direct injection engine for later models.
#4 of 62 Re: 2010 Mercedes E-Class [vicv] by goatrope May 21, 2009 (11:40 am)
Replying to: vicv (Mar 19, 2009 6:02 pm) Mercedes generally won't introduce new powertrains with the new chassis designs - they don't want to have too much new stuff on the market at any one time. So you'll get the carried-over engines and transmissions to go with the new W-212 design.   Mercedes is in a bind because 75% of their E-Class sales over the past three years have been leases; and they are flooding the market with low-mileage E-Class sedans at half the price of a new model. Mercedes has taken a huge depreciation hit on the nearly-new models.   My wife has owned both 5-Series BMWs and E-Class Mercedes (including her current one). She's thinking it may be time for a Lexus. Replies to this message: hpmctorque (May 23, 2009 3:57 am)
#5 of 62 Re: 2010 Mercedes E-Class [goatrope] by hpmctorque May 23, 2009 (3:57 am)
Replying to: goatrope (May 21, 2009 11:40 am) Your last paragraph is intriguing. Is you wife considering a Lexus because, (1) the BMW and Mercedes disappointed her; (2) she thinks the Lexus is a better car, or, (3) because she just feels she wants a change? Also, did she have a better experience with BMW or Mercedes?
#6 of 62 New E class by aeggroup Jun 08, 2009 (9:43 am)
I'm very disappointed with new E-class. Plain ugly car. it looks like designers of MB were drunk, when they did the rear of the car. Inside is just ok...It's time to look for Lexus. My previous two E and current one have two many problems and I know all managers at my local MB dealer. I hate them already and with 2010 design I'll be happy to forget those people )) Thank you MB for this new model, which finally will switch me to another brand. Replies to this message: car_man2 (Jun 09, 2009 6:55 am) aeggroup (Jun 10, 2009 7:46 am) car_man2 (Jun 12, 2009 6:49 am)
#7 of 62 Re: 2010 Mercedes E-Class [hpmctorque] by turnten Jun 08, 2009 (11:05 am)
Replying to: hpmctorque (Mar 09, 2009 3:58 pm) They certainly attempt to be a techno packed company. I am still undecided about if that is good or bad. Same goes for the new E coupe. I was on board with the 4 door coupe, but not sure about a coupe that looks like a 4 door. Bit odd, but maybe it will grown on me
#8 of 62 Re: New E class [aeggroup] by car_man2 Jun 09, 2009 (6:55 am)
Replying to: aeggroup (Jun 08, 2009 9:43 am) I agree with you. The designers did not put much effort in designing the new e-class. The front of the car is copied from the new Lexus GS-Series, and the back of the car is a Hyundai Sonata. The interior is much more improved than the 2003-2009 e-class (which were all the same car, minus the small exterior and interior changes for 07-09). Although, if you notice with the 2010 e-class interior, they copied off BMW with the center turning knob for whatever it does. I do like the interior of the new e-class, but the exterior lacks inspiration and development of a car that they hope will sell in these economic times. Even, the rich who can afford to buy luxury cars are cutting back on extravagant purchases. For Mercedes sake, I hope they can sell the new 2010 e-class, but I will not be buying one! I will keep my current e-class and keep driving it, until the wheels fall off! (lol). Replies to this message: aeggroup (Jun 10, 2009 7:46 am) car_man2 (Jun 12, 2009 6:49 am)
#9 of 62 Re: New E class [car_man2] by aeggroup Jun 10, 2009 (7:46 am)
Replying to: car_man2 (Jun 09, 2009 6:55 am) LOL...wish you luck with your current E class, but according to my experience - it doesn't take long time until wheels fall off in MB E class world )). The quality of MB getting worse year after year. I had 2006 E 4Matic - the engine was changed after 8 months of ownership. Thanks God it was a lease. Now I have 2008 E RWD - strange noise from the rear. I actually was waiting for 2010 model and hoped it will be better than current one, but according to what I see ( I mean design ) - I doubt. I'll try CLS, if not - will go to BMW. Next spring new 5 series comes to market. Usually it copies design of 7 series. If this will be true - I like it.   Good luck... Replies to this message: car_man2 (Jun 12, 2009 6:49 am)
#10 of 62 -$4,600 by hpmctorque Jun 10, 2009 (1:58 pm)
I read that Mercedes reduced the list price of the '10 E-Class by that amount, so that MSRP is closer to the actual selling prices.   The corporate priority should put reliability and less hassle ahead of new features. Why keep adding new features if you can't get the ones you already have right? I think the high cost of ownership have really hurt German luxury car sales, and will continue to do so. I won't consider one until or unless I'm confident they're reliable.

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