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Replying to: etp (Jul 11, 2009 1:30 am) As far as dealer service on our 2009 GCs and TCs it looks as that is very dealer specific so far at 3 different dealerships. My mixed driving MPG continues to move up (23.5) and my great initial MPG on the highway (two long trips) has dropped to around 25 or less ( was 27.3). My Prius is up to 54-58 in mixed driving. AC on really hits my MPG on the Prius. Sold my last Honda on Tue. So just two vehicles in my stable at this time. We definitely prefer the GC for trips as we can load up the grand kids and take them to Disney. If I ever wear these tires out ( before I give it to my son) I will check out the LRR Michelins that just came out.
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Replying to: etp (Jul 11, 2009 1:35 am) No, I did buy the 09 4.0/6spd combo. We had it for a couple months now. So far no real major problems. Your mileage is excellent. We are not getting those yet. But we have about 2600 or so miles on it. the Van is definately great for long trips to the beach house. the 4.0 really has a nice exhaust sound to it and has suprising power to it. Keeping up with fast drivers is no problem. A question: In the service book, I believe it states change oil every 6000 or 6500 miles. When we turn on the van, it tells us to change oil soon. We called the dealer and they said you need to change every 3000 miles. How often do you change your oil? I don't want to mess with the Lifetime powertrain warranty, so I want to make sure we follow the proper maintanence schedule. Thanks |
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I try to change mine every 3k but if it slips to 5k no big deal. I also use Mobile1 from Walmart and take the jug in and have then use my oil. I noticed my change warning came on also and it is too early for a change. I think they forgot to reset it at my last change. I believe that 3k is for heavy duty stop and go driving conditions I change all my vehicles every 3K but 5K should be ok if you use synthetic. Yep this 4.0 is a hot engine to say the least and the 6 speed rocks. My daughter bought the non touring TC and she notices the difference in the ride and handling. Did you get the touring GC? |
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ENGINE OIL WARNING: New or used engine oil can be irritating to the skin. Avoid prolonged or repeated skin contact with engine oil. Contaminants in used engine oil, caused by internal combustion, can be hazardous to your health. Thoroughly wash exposed skin with soap and water. Do not wash skin with gasoline, diesel fuel, thinner, or solvents, health problems can result. Do not pollute, dispose of used engine oil properly. Contact your dealer or government agency for location of collection center in your area. When service is required, Chrysler recommends that only Mopar® brand parts, lubricants and chemicals be used. Mopar® provides the best engineered products for servicing Chrysler vehicles. Only lubricants bearing designations defined by the following organization should be used. Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) American Petroleum Institute (API) National Lubricating Grease Institute (NLGI) Association des Constructeurs Européens d' Automobiles (European Automobile Manufacturers Association) (ACEA) API CERTIFICATION AND LICENSE SYMBOL Use an engine oil that is API Certified and Licensed to display the certification mark. MOPAR® provides engine oils that meet or exceed, Material Standard MS-6395 requirement. SAE VISCOSITY Engine oils are designed to improve low temperature starting and vehicle fuel economy. Refer to the engine oil filler cap for the preferred engine oil viscosity grade for each vehicle . SAE viscosity grades are used to specify the correct viscosity oil for an engine. Use only Multi-Viscosity oils. These are specified with a dual SAE viscosity grade which indicates the cold (5W) to hot (20, 30) temperature performance range of the oil. ACEA CATEGORIES For countries that use the ACEA European Oil Categories for service fill oils, use engine oils that meet the requirements of ACEA A1/B1, A2/B2, or A3/B3. CONTAINER IDENTIFICATION The Engine Oil Certification Mark was developed and trademarked by the API to refer customers to those engine oils preferred by the automobile manufacturers. This symbol means that the oil has been certified and licensed by the American Petroleum Institute (API). This certification mark will only be found on the front of the oil containers . Those oils that do not display the “Mark” on the front of the container should not be used. Chrysler only recommends API Certified engine oils that meet the requirements of Material Standard MS-6395. Use Mopar or an equivalent oil meeting the specification MS-6395. SYNTHETIC ENGINE OILS There are a number of engine oils being promoted as either synthetic or semi-synthetic. If you chose to use such a product, use only those oils that are certified by the American Petroleum Institute (API) to display the “Certification Mark” and show SAE viscosity grade recommended for each vehicle. Follow the service schedule that describes your driving type. ENGINE OIL ADDITIVES/SUPPLEMENTS The manufacturer does not recommend the addition of any engine oil additives/supplements to the specified engine oil. Engine oil additives/supplements should not be used to enhance engine oil performance. Engine oil additives/supplements should not be used to extend engine oil change intervals. No additive is known to be safe for engine durability and can degrade emission components. Additives can contain undesirable materials that harm the long term durability of engines and emission systems by: Increasing the level of Phosphorus and Sulfur in the engine oil. The API Certified Engine Oils control the Phosphorus and Sulfur contents of the oil to levels that reduce the contamination effect on the vehicles emission control system. Altering the viscosity characteristics of the engine oil so that it no longer meets the requirements of the specified viscosity grade. Creating potential for an undesirable additive compatibility interaction in the engine crankcase. The engine oils contain a performance additive system carefully developed to optimize the oils performance in the engine. The addition of supplements may cause the oil to thicken prematurely, cause excessive deposit build-up and potentially shorten engine life. |
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MAINTENANCE SCHEDULES - NAFTA The oil change indicator system will remind you that it is time to take the vehicle in for scheduled maintenance. On Electronic Vehicle Information Center (EVIC) equipped vehicles “Oil Change Required” will be displayed in the EVIC and a single chime will sound, indicating that an oil change is necessary. On Non-EVIC equipped vehicles “Change Oil” will flash in the instrument cluster odometer and a single chime will sound, indicating that an oil change is necessary. Based on engine operation conditions the oil change indicator message will illuminate, this means that service is required for the vehicle. Have the vehicle serviced as soon as possible, within the next 500 miles (805 km). NOTE: The oil change indicator message will not monitor the time since the last oil change. Change the vehicles oil if it has been 6 months since the last oil change even if the oil change indicator message is NOT illuminated. Change the engine oil more often if you drive the vehicle off-road for an extended period of time. Under no circumstances should oil change intervals exceed 6,000 miles (10,000 km) or 6 months, whichever comes first. Oil change indicator - Reset The vehicle is equipped with an engine oil change indicator system. The “Oil Change Required” message will flash in the EVIC display for approximately 10 seconds after a single chime has sounded to indicate the next scheduled oil change interval. The engine oil change indicator system is duty cycle based, which means the engine oil change interval may fluctuate dependent upon your personal driving style. Unless reset, this message will continue to display each time you turn the ignition switch to the ON/RUN position. To turn off the message temporarily, press and release the Menu button. To reset the oil change indicator system (after performing the scheduled maintenance) perform the following procedure: Turn the ignition switch to the “ON” position (Do not start the engine). Fully depress the accelerator pedal slowly three times within 10 seconds. Turn the ignition switch to the “LOCK” position. NOTE: If the indicator message illuminates when you start the vehicle, the oil change indicator system did not reset. If necessary repeat this procedure. At Each Stop for Fuel Check the engine oil level about 5 minutes after a fully warmed engine is shut off. Checking the oil level while the vehicle is on level ground will improve the accuracy of the oil level reading. Add oil only when the level is at or below the SAFE or MIN mark. Check the windshield washer solvent and add if required. Once a Month Check tire pressure and look for unusual wear or damage. Inspect the battery and clean and tighten the terminals as required. Check the fluid levels of coolant reservoir, brake master cylinder, power steering and transmission and add as needed. Check all lights and other electrical items for correct operation. At Each Oil Change Change the engine oil filter. Inspect the brake hoses and lines. CAUTION: Failure to perform the required maintenance items may result in damage to the vehicle. REQUIRED MAINTENANCE INTERVALS Perform Maintenance Every Maintenance Items (Where time and mileage are listed, follow the interval that occurs first.) Miles Kilometers Months 6000 10000 6 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter. Rotate tires. 12000 20000 12 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter. Rotate tires. If using the vehicle for any of the following: Dusty or off-road conditions. Inspect the engine air cleaner filter, replace if necessary. Replace the air conditioning filter. Inspect the brake linings, replace if necessary. Inspect the CV Joints. Perform the first inspection at 12,000 miles (20 000 km) or 12 months. Inspect the exhaust system. Perform the first inspection at 12,000 miles (20 000 km) or 12 months. 18000 30000 18 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter. Rotate tires. 24000 40000 24 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter. Rotate tires. If using the vehicle for any of the following: Dusty or off-road conditions. Inspect the engine air cleaner filter, replace if necessary. Replace the air conditioning filter. Inspect the brake linings, replace if necessary. Inspect the CV Joints. Inspect the exhaust system. Inspect the front suspension, tie rod ends and boot seals, replace if necessary. 30000 50000 30 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter. Rotate tires. Replace the engine air cleaner filter. 36000 60000 36 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter. Rotate tires. If using the vehicle for any of the following: Dusty or off-road conditions. Inspect the engine air cleaner filter, replace if necessary. Replace the air conditioning filter. Inspect the brake linings, replace if necessary. 42000 70000 42 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter. Rotate tires. 48000 80000 48 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter. Rotate tires. If using the vehicle for any of the following: Dusty or off-road conditions. Inspect the engine air cleaner filter, replace if necessary. Replace the air conditioning filter. Inspect the brake linings, replace if necessary. Inspect the CV Joints. Inspect the exhaust system. Inspect the front suspension, tie rod ends and boot seals, replace if necessary. 54000 90000 54 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter. Rotate tires. 60000 100000 60 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter. Rotate tires. Replace the engine air cleaner filter. Replace the air conditioning filter. Inspect the brake linings, replace if necessary. Change the automatic transaxle fluid & filter if using the vehicle for any of the following: police, taxi, fleet or frequent trailer towing. Flush and replace the engine coolant at 60 months if not done at 102,000 miles (170 000 km). 66000 110000 66 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter. Rotate tires. 72000 120000 72 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter. Rotate tires. If using the vehicle for any of the following: Dusty or off-road conditions. Inspect the engine air cleaner filter, replace if necessary. Replace the air conditioning filter. Inspect the brake linings, replace if necessary. Inspect the CV Joints. Inspect the exhaust system. Inspect the front suspension, tie rod ends and boot seals, replace if necessary. 78000 130000 78 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter. Rotate tires. 84000 140000 84 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter. Rotate tires. If using the vehicle for any of the following: Dusty or off-road conditions. Inspect the engine air cleaner filter, replace if necessary. Replace the air conditioning filter. Inspect the brake linings, replace if necessary. 90000 150000 90 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter. Rotate tires. Replace t |
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5 YEAR INSPECTION - LIFETIME POWERTRAIN WARRANTY The following steps outline the dealer inspection procedure required every 5 years for vehicles covered under the terms of the Lifetime Powertrain Warranty. Refer to the appropriate warranty information for additional terms and coverages applicable to the Lifetime Powertrain Warranty. 1. Lift the vehicle on a suitable hoist. 2. Check all Powertrain components for leaks or physical damage. Note any concerns. 3. Lower the vehicle and check the level and condition of the engine oil. 4. Connect a diagnostic scan tool and check for any Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC). |
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FLUIDS, LUBRICANTS, AND GENUINE PARTS ENGINE Component Fluid, Lubricant, and Genuine Part Engine Coolant MOPAR ® Antifreeze/Coolant Five Year/100,000 Mile Formula HOAT (Hybrid Organic Additive Technology) Engine Oil (3.3L and 3.8L Engines) Use API Certified SAE 5W-20 Engine Oil, meeting the requirements of Chrysler Material Standard MS-6395. Refer to your oil filler cap for correct SAE grade Engine Oil (4.0L Engine) Use API Certified SAE 10W-30 Engine Oil, meeting the requirements of Chrysler Material Standard MS-6395. Refer to your oil filler cap for correct SAE grade Oil Filter (3.3L and 3.8L Engines) MOPAR ® Engine Oil Filter (P/N 04105409) or equivalent Oil Filter (4.0L Engine) MOPAR ® Engine Oil Filter (P/N 04884899AB) or equivalent Spark Plugs (3.3L and 3.8L Engines) RE14PLP5 (Gap 0.050 in [1.27 mm]) Spark Plugs (4.0L Engine) ZFR5LP-13G (Gap 0.050 in [1.27 mm]) Fuel Selection (3.3L and 3.8L Engines) 87 Octane Fuel Selection (4.0L Engine) 87 Octane Acceptable — 89 Recommended ENGINE - EXPORT Component Fluid, Lubricant, and Genuine Part Engine Coolant MOPAR ® Antifreeze/Coolant Five Year/100,000 Mile Formula HOAT (Hybrid Organic Additive Technology) Engine Oil - Gasoline (Non ACEA Categories) Use API Certified SAE 5W-20 engine oil, meeting the requirements of Chrysler Material Standard MS-6395. Refer to your engine oil filler cap for correct SAE grade. SAE 5W-30 engine oil approved to MB 229.31 or MB 229.51 may be used when SAE 5W-20 engine oil is not available. Engine Oil - Gasoline (ACEA Categories) For countries that use the ACEA European Oil Categories for Service Fill Oils, use engine oils meeting the requirements of ACEA C3, and approved to MB 229.31 or MB 229.51. SAE 5W-30 engine oil approved to MB 229.31 or MB 229.51 may be used when SAE 5W-20 engine oil is not available. Engine Oil - Diesel (without Particulate Filter) Use SAE 0W-40 Diesel Engine Oils confirming to API (American Petroleum Institute) Quality CI-4 or CJ-4. For countries that use the ACEA European Oil Categories for Service Fill Oils, use engine oils meeting the requirements of ACEA C3 and approved to MB 229.31 or MB 229.51. Engine Oil - Diesel (with Particulate Filter) Use SAE 5W-30 Diesel Engine Oils confirming to API (American Petroleum Institute) Quality CI-4 or CJ-4. For countries that use the ACEA European Oil Categories for Service Fill Oils, use engine oils meeting the requirements of ACEA C3 (LOW ASH) and approved to MB 229.31 or MB 229.51. Oil Filter (3.8L Engine) MOPAR ® Engine Oil Filter (P/N 04884899AB) or equivalent Oil Filter (2.8L Diesel Engine) MOPAR ® Engine Oil Filter (P/N 5003558AA) Spark Plugs (3.8L Engine) RE14PLP5 (Gap 0.050 in [1.27 mm]) Fuel Selection (3.8L Engine) 91 Octane Fuel Selection (2.8L Diesel Engine) 50 Cetane or higher (Less than 15 ppm Sulfur) CHASSIS Component Fluids, Lubricants and Genuine Parts. Automatic Transmission Mopar ® ATF+4 Automatic Transmission Fluid Brake Master Cylinder Mopar ® DOT 3, SAE J1703 should be used. If DOT 3, SAE J1703 brake fluid is not available, then DOT 4 is acceptable. Use only recommended brake fluids. Power Steering Reservoir Mopar ® Power Steering Fluid +4 or Mopar ® ATF+4 Automatic Transmission Fluid CAPACITIES Description U.S Metric Fuel (approximate) All Engines 20 Gallons 76 Liters Engine Oil-With Filter 3.3L and 3.8L Engine (SAE 5W-20, API Certified) 5.0 Quarts 4.7 Liters 4.0L Engine (SAE 10W-30 API Certified) 5.5 Quarts 5.2 Liters Cooling System * 3.3L, 3.8L, and 4.0L Engine (MOPAR® Engine Coolant/Antifreeze 5 Year/100,000 Mile Formula) 13.4 Quarts 12.6 Liters * Includes heater and coolant recovery bottle filled to MAX level. Add 2.9 Qts (2.8 L) if equipped with a rear heater. Power Steering System Power Steering 2.5 Pints 1.2 Liters A/C Refrigerant System Front A/C Only 1.75 Pounds 0.79 Kilograms Front and Rear A/C 2.44 Pounds 1.11 Kilograms Automatic Transmission Automatic Transaxle - 4XTE Service Fill 4.0 Quarts 3.8 Liters Automatic Transaxle - 4XTE Overhaul Fill 9.7 Quarts 9.2 Liters Automatic Transmission 62TE Service Fill 5.5 Quarts 5.2 Liters Automatic Transmission 62TE Fill 9.0 Quarts 8.5 Liters CAPACITIES - EXPORT Description U.S Metric Fuel (Approximate) 20 Gallons 76 Liters Engine Oil with Filter 3.8L Engine 5.0 Quarts 4.7 Liters 2.8L Diesel Engine 7.0 Quarts 6.6 Liters Cooling System * 3.8L Engine (MOPAR® Engine Coolant/Antifreeze 5 Year/100,000 Mile Formula) 13.4 Quarts 12.6 Liters 2.8L Diesel Engine (MOPAR® Engine Coolant/Antifreeze 5 Year/100,000 Mile Formula) 14.5 Quarts 13.8 Liters * Includes heater and coolant recovery bottle filled to MAX level. Add 2.9 Qts (2.8 L) if equipped with a rear heater. Power Steering System Power Steering 2.5 Pints 1.2 Liters A/C Refrigerant System Front A/C Only 1.75 Pounds 0.79 Kilograms Front and Rear A/C 2.44 Pounds 1.11 Kilograms Automatic Transmission Automatic Transaxle - 4XTE Service Fill 4.0 Quarts 3.8 Liters Automatic Transaxle - 4XTE Overhaul Fill 9.7 Quarts 9.2 Liters Automatic Transmission 62TE Service Fill 5.5 Quarts 5.2 Liters Automatic Transmission 62TE Fill 9.0 Quarts 8.5 Liters |
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I buy the cheapest gas I can find! That is the first time I noticed 89 octane.
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Replying to: etp (Aug 06, 2009 2:45 pm) This line: REQUIRED MAINTENANCE INTERVALS Perform Maintenance Every Maintenance Items (Where time and mileage are listed, follow the interval that occurs first.) Miles Kilometers Months 6000 10000 6 Change the engine oil and engine oil filter. Rotate tires. Shows you only need to change the oil every 6000 miles. I'm wondering why it's telling me to change the oil soon at 2600 miles. With my Acura, I'm suppose to change every 7500, and the maintenance light comes on at around every 7000 or so. Dodge must've forgot to update it..?? I don't think I've had a car where I had to change the oil every 3K miles in a very long time. It seems they're making em' now-a-days with longer intervals between changes. But with that, you still change every 3K to 5K? force of habit maybe?  I'm not sure if I have the Touring or not. It does not say Touring, so I'm guessing it isn't, but it seems to have all the bells and whistles: Nav, DVD, auto windshield wipers, side window shades, swivel seats, turn signal warning, power doors, tailgate, leather, power pedals, heated seats, Infinity speakers, that's all I can think of for now. I'm not sure what extra stuff the Touring has. and yeah, we only put in 87 Grade and get it at the local Exxon or Costco where it's the cheapest in the area. That's the first I've seen 89 as well...Seems to run fine with the cheap stuff
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