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Re: Trailer Tow Prep Group... [etp] by fmichael
May 16, 2009 (2:03 pm)
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Replying to: etp (May 16, 2009 12:39 pm)

Well since I'm not too familiar with Chrysler products, & their specific options - I'd figure the best policy is to ask you guys here ...Since I live in Wisconsin - you would not reccommend looking into 1 of these vans w/the towing package?...There's quite a few of these available (1 dealer has several of them) in my area; is there a particular reason for your concern?
 
Thanks!
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Re: Trailer Tow Prep Group... [fmichael] by etp
May 17, 2009 (1:34 am)
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Replying to: fmichael (May 16, 2009 2:03 pm)

Don't get the towing package unless they are giving you a tremendous discount 9-10K. Then it doesn't matter as long as you have a garage. I lived at KI Sawyer for 4 years in the 70s and the extra cooling package would not be something I wanted in that climate. But money talks man. See what kind of deal you can get. I had a block heater and used very thin oil to survive. In this case you would need the use the 0W30 or 0W40 in the winter for sure. This summer just stick to the 10W30 until it breaks in. We even put news paper over the radiator until summer. The heated seats are very nice BTW.
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Re: Trailer Tow Prep Group... [fmichael] by etp
May 17, 2009 (1:39 am)
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Replying to: fmichael (May 16, 2009 2:03 pm)

PS/ I live in hot Fl and that cooling system would have been nice to have and not a single van had it on the lot.
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Re: Trailer Tow Prep Group... [etp] by xwesx
May 17, 2009 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: etp (May 17, 2009 1:34 am)

I doubt the added cooling will be an issue in Wisconsin. I have a '98 DGC and live in Fairbanks, AK. That thing actually gets warm enough inside that I have to turn the heat down from full after a short drive, even when ambient temperatures are -50F. It is the only vehicle I have ever owned that will fully heat the interior at those temperatures, and I do not restrict air flow over the radiator.
 
Wisconsin does not receive enough weather in the "extreme cold" range to adversely affect the transmission temperatures on a regular basis, but I agree that having the added cooling capacity in that climate is not likely to be of benefit. The shocks, however, could be handy, especially if you have any plan to use the van for cargo hauling. The load leveling shocks are great on my van when I put large loads in it - they prevent the rear end from sagging and giving you that "looking at the sky" sensation.
 
Regardless of your final choice, if you do find the van feels extremely sluggish in cold temperatures, you can replace the transmission fluid with Amsoil universal ATF for a marked improvement or add a transmission oil pan heater to reduce the effect of cold starts.
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Re: Trailer Tow Prep Group... [etp] by etp
May 18, 2009 (2:11 pm)
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Replying to: etp (May 17, 2009 1:34 am)

The new cars have synthetic fluid in the transmission. Maybe! That is the rumor anyway.
 
Ok, as usual you have two different opinions. At 20 to 40 below zero folks things are much different. We were colder than Anchorage and had more snow at KI Sawyer. Parts of Wisconsin, UP, Minnesota, get very cold for most of the winter.
 
But hey, a garage would be nice eh!
Bottom line is price. For a great deal I would put up with a little pain man.
Don't put anything in your van the manual doesn't authorize or your local dealer. Hope he still has a job.
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Re: Trailer Tow Prep Group... [etp] by shipo
May 18, 2009 (3:16 pm)
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Replying to: etp (May 18, 2009 2:11 pm)

Virtually every Chrysler product with an automatic transmission built since 2000 has come from the factory with ATF+4 which is a "Synthetic" transmission fluid.
 
Best regards,
Shipo
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Re: Trailer Tow Prep Group... [shipo] by etp
May 19, 2009 (1:56 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (May 18, 2009 3:16 pm)

Thanks man!
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Re: Trailer Tow Prep Group... [etp] by shipo
May 19, 2009 (2:05 pm)
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Replying to: etp (May 19, 2009 1:56 pm)

No worries!
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Re: Trailer Tow Prep Group... [shipo] by etp
May 30, 2009 (4:36 am)
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Replying to: shipo (May 19, 2009 2:05 pm)

OK, I have a minor mileage update.
 
Still running 44PSI in all my vehicles.
 
My HWY mileage went down 1.3MPG for the last trip to Tampa. Probably gas and the van breaking in. But my beast is on close watch for the next 6 months to see what happens on the MPG (dealer did an alignment and an oil change to 10W30 syn was the only difference). I will slip some 5W30 full syn in shortly at my 6K oil change. Since I have an empty 10W30 jug laying around I should be able to pull this one off at the dealer (TBD).
Side note is that over the last 50 years I have noticed some new engines get better MPG when there are new and some after 18K. Strange but true! Most of my GMs were that way and my Hondas were the opposite. My Prius kicks butt out of the chocks.
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Re: Trailer Tow Prep Group... [etp] by etp
May 30, 2009 (4:41 am)
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Replying to: etp (May 30, 2009 4:36 am)

One more thing. I noticed on two of my Hybrids that it took two oil changes before i noticed any difference with syn oil. That could be caused by anything but I had a mechanic on another forum and the dealer tell me that was normal. Also I get better mileage after the oil has been in 1500 miles.
 
Boy the Mobil 1 sure looks better than the Q syn oil.

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