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Nissan Murano Start Stall and Idle Problems

19 messages,  Last post on Aug 27, 2009 at 3:04 PM

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Re: [c8smom] by ferraritech
Aug 23, 2009 (6:57 pm)
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Replying to: c8smom (Aug 05, 2009 10:30 am)

After several hours of diagnosis, this is what fixed Muranogirl's issue.
 
I removed the THROTTLE BODY and cleaned it with a can of carb-cleaner. There was a lot of build up, but I did not think this was the root of the problem. I reinstalled the THROTTLE BODY and started the vehicle. This fixed the stalling issue, but not the rough idle.
 
I removed the THROTTLE BODY again for a closer inspection of the area. What I noticed was a small area on the opening to the intake that was dirty. The metal crush gasket that is between the TB and Intake somehow developed a leak. I could tell because everywhere on the intake where it mates to the throttle was clean except for this small area on the radius. (the stall was probably fixed the first time because I might have caught the gasket just right and stopped most of the leak)
 
I cut a new gasket out of good gasket material. Reinstalled the TB, reset the ECU of soft codes and started the vehicle. No problem. Idled smooth like when we bought it.
 
In conclusion: OUR particular problem stemmed from a leak between the throttle body and intake.
 
Hope this helps.
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Re: [ferraritech] by ferraritech
Aug 23, 2009 (7:08 pm)
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Replying to: ferraritech (Aug 23, 2009 6:57 pm)

If you want to test to see if this is your problem, here's an easy procedure.
 
Note: Carb Cleaner is highly flammable. Use extreme caution and try to do this with a cool engine. (you can substitute carb cleaner with WD40- result isn't as noticeable)
 
Get the engine to start and run on its own (if you have to have someone hold the throttle that is fine)
 
Quick sprays of carb cleaner directly at the area between the throttle body and intake. Get the top, sides, and bottom if you can. If you have a leak there, the engine will stumble and possibly stall.
 
Next step...go get another gasket. As far as I know, there are no aftermarket fiber gaskets for the Murano. So you will most likely have to go with Nissan's metal crush gasket. I would say this is probably fine, but if it happened once......
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Re: [ferraritech] by turbonator
Aug 26, 2009 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: ferraritech (Aug 23, 2009 7:08 pm)

Interesting--------Just received a 'recall' from Nissan about "RECALL-MAY STALL WHILE DRIVING" letter. It says ">>>>a defect that relates to motor vehicle safety exists in some 2003-2007 model year Nissan Murano vehicles. Under certain conditions, the intake duct, which is connected to the intermediate resonator in the air intake system of the engine, may separate from the resonator with engine movement. this could cause poor acceleration or minor idle fluctuation and, in some instances, could result in the engine stalling while driving. In order to keep this from occurring, we will replace the air intake duct with an updated part and the air duct clamps--------"
Haven't taken mine in yet, but plan to soon.
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Re: [turbonator] by ferraritech
Aug 26, 2009 (12:14 pm)
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Replying to: turbonator (Aug 26, 2009 6:00 am)

The recall letter is ancient. The car was at Nissan before I decided to deal with it myself. They did this recall per my request. The car would not re-start and stay running in the exit drive of the dealership.
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Re: [ferraritech] by turbonator
Aug 26, 2009 (3:33 pm)
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Replying to: ferraritech (Aug 26, 2009 12:14 pm)

Well, I'm new here (I saw the recall post earlier today). But it seems to have helped my problem------went out later and car started and idled ok. Never had a problem with it running, just failure to continue to idle after hot restart.
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Re: [turbonator] by ferraritech
Aug 27, 2009 (5:13 am)
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Replying to: turbonator (Aug 26, 2009 3:33 pm)

In your case that may have been the problem, just not ours. Keep us posted on the check engine light after a few days of driving.
 
Glad your problem was addressed and fixed. Sometimes they bat a thousand.
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Mr by lovepub
Aug 27, 2009 (5:33 am)
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take it into Nissan service centre.
There has been a post regarding NISSAN's problem about this!!
It's NISSAN's problem~~~~ get it fixed if under warranty.
They should even do it for free as they are recalling all the ones with this problem!!
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Rear Parking Sensor can be installed on Murano?? by lovepub
Aug 27, 2009 (5:36 am)
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I am in Australia. We dont get all the range models as US.
 
We have ST and Ti Model.
 
Ti = top of range with reversing camera.
I am buying a Ti, and they said the rear parking assist sensor WILL NOT fit due to Ti already have Reverse Camera installed.
 
Is that TRUE? Why can't the two co-exist at the same time?
 
Should the dealer be able to install the REAR park assist even though i have the reverse camera there??
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Re: Mr [lovepub] by ferraritech
Aug 27, 2009 (10:33 am)
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Replying to: lovepub (Aug 27, 2009 5:33 am)

There is a campaign for the ductwork to the throttle. This is not always the issue/or the fix. By all means get free work done to your vehicle. Not all complaints/recall issues found on web sites are real. There is a supposed cam sensor recall for these vehicles that addresses the stalling. In fact this is not a recognized campaign by Nissan North America.
 
The duct is real.
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Re: Rear Parking Sensor can be installed on Murano?? [lovepub] by ferraritech
Aug 27, 2009 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: lovepub (Aug 27, 2009 5:36 am)

So you are saying that because the Ti has a back up camera (which is triggered either by selecting reverse or when something comes within range of the sensors for the camera) that a parking assist sensor will not fit? I would assume because the reverse camera feature is using that location for its sensors.
 
Why is a parking assist sensor needed if you already can see what is behind you with the factory reverse aid?

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