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Nissan Murano Start Stall and Idle Problems

19 messages,  Last post on Aug 27, 2009 at 3:04 PM

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Re: [gatchison] by gohokiees
Apr 20, 2009 (8:52 am)
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Replying to: gatchison (Feb 28, 2009 8:26 am)

My 2003 SL Murano started stalling at 38k miles. I took it to my dealership that has performed all of the service since I purchased it off the lot brand new. Of course, the car would not stall for them. I have since taken it back in 3 times for them to look at it. The alternator (under warranty) and battery (my dime) have been replaced and the car still stalls intermittently.
 
However, in the past few weeks (and at 68k miles), the car will NOT stay running unless I gun the engine immediately after starting it. It happens every time I start my car. It does not matter if the engine is cold or warmed up. I am taking it in this week b/c, in addition to the stalling issue, the driver's seat no longer adjusts on the right track. Randomly one day last week, the seat moved back when I turned off the car and then when I started it up (and gunned it!), a very weird noise came from the beneath the seat. Fortunately, I can reach the peddles enough, but it is inconvenient. No one shorter than I am can drive my car. The seat will move forward on the left track, so the seat just moves diagonally toward the gear shift, while staying fixed on the right track. And nothing is in the right track. I believe the motor burned out on the right side. Ugh!!!
 
I will keep you posted. Of course, the warranty is over. This was my first Nissan. I had always been a Honda girl, where it was normal to run them to 200k without issues (wear&tear excluded). Is this normal for Nissan?
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Re: [gohokiees] by muranogirl
Jul 24, 2009 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: gohokiees (Apr 20, 2009 8:52 am)

My 03 Murano has the same start/stall issues. I just brought it in and the dealership told me that it wasn't showing any codes, so according to the computer, there's noththing wrong with it. Though the service manager recognized that they didn't fix the problem, he has no idea why the problem is occurring.
 
Several months ago,, the driver's seat just stopped moving back when you turn the car off.At least I can still position the seat, it just doesn't move like it did when i first got the car.
 
Please let me know if your dealership has found a reason for the starting/stalling problem. I can deal with the seat for now . . . .
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Re: [muranogirl] by c8smom
Aug 05, 2009 (10:30 am)
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Replying to: muranogirl (Jul 24, 2009 12:49 pm)

I have a 2005 Murano and this started happening 3 weeks ago to me. of course I brought it in immediately and it didn't do it. got an oil change and worked fine. they said next time stop in when it happens. that was monday. i filled up gas and noticed that the gauge was not fully moving (thought my gas station ripped me off) then it started acting like it was out of gas sputtering so I drove right there and a mechanic took it out and it did it for him.. had to make an apt for the following tuesday (yesterday) they had it ALL day and it wouldn't do it no codes nothing. I thought it was the fuel pump and they agreed but that is the one thing that doesn't make a code and he said if it was it wouldn't be intermitent like it is they said to run it and see what happens. great going on vacation next week and what am I to do? get AAA??? I have 2 small kids I can't be breaking down.
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Re: 03 Murano stalls when restarting vehicle [gatchison] by turbonator
Aug 22, 2009 (4:38 pm)
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Replying to: gatchison (Feb 27, 2009 9:48 pm)

My 04 Murano has the same problem----fails to idle after it warms up (but it starts ok). Light pressure on the gas peddle keeps it going-----but starts and idles fine if it is cold or sits for awhile.
Problem started after replacement of the battery????? Wonder what the cause and effect is.
Took it to the mountains, and never failed to idle when starting, hot or cold. Wondered if it was the altitude??? Came back to Ok, and now the problem is there again. Obviously the 'clean out' from a long trip was NOT the answer. Maybe the low octane gas I use causes the knock sensor to shut it down??? Will try a tank of premium next time gas prices come down.
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Re: [c8smom] by ferraritech
Aug 23, 2009 (6:57 pm)
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Replying to: c8smom (Aug 05, 2009 10:30 am)

After several hours of diagnosis, this is what fixed Muranogirl's issue.
 
I removed the THROTTLE BODY and cleaned it with a can of carb-cleaner. There was a lot of build up, but I did not think this was the root of the problem. I reinstalled the THROTTLE BODY and started the vehicle. This fixed the stalling issue, but not the rough idle.
 
I removed the THROTTLE BODY again for a closer inspection of the area. What I noticed was a small area on the opening to the intake that was dirty. The metal crush gasket that is between the TB and Intake somehow developed a leak. I could tell because everywhere on the intake where it mates to the throttle was clean except for this small area on the radius. (the stall was probably fixed the first time because I might have caught the gasket just right and stopped most of the leak)
 
I cut a new gasket out of good gasket material. Reinstalled the TB, reset the ECU of soft codes and started the vehicle. No problem. Idled smooth like when we bought it.
 
In conclusion: OUR particular problem stemmed from a leak between the throttle body and intake.
 
Hope this helps.
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Re: [ferraritech] by ferraritech
Aug 23, 2009 (7:08 pm)
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Replying to: ferraritech (Aug 23, 2009 6:57 pm)

If you want to test to see if this is your problem, here's an easy procedure.
 
Note: Carb Cleaner is highly flammable. Use extreme caution and try to do this with a cool engine. (you can substitute carb cleaner with WD40- result isn't as noticeable)
 
Get the engine to start and run on its own (if you have to have someone hold the throttle that is fine)
 
Quick sprays of carb cleaner directly at the area between the throttle body and intake. Get the top, sides, and bottom if you can. If you have a leak there, the engine will stumble and possibly stall.
 
Next step...go get another gasket. As far as I know, there are no aftermarket fiber gaskets for the Murano. So you will most likely have to go with Nissan's metal crush gasket. I would say this is probably fine, but if it happened once......
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Re: [ferraritech] by turbonator
Aug 26, 2009 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: ferraritech (Aug 23, 2009 7:08 pm)

Interesting--------Just received a 'recall' from Nissan about "RECALL-MAY STALL WHILE DRIVING" letter. It says ">>>>a defect that relates to motor vehicle safety exists in some 2003-2007 model year Nissan Murano vehicles. Under certain conditions, the intake duct, which is connected to the intermediate resonator in the air intake system of the engine, may separate from the resonator with engine movement. this could cause poor acceleration or minor idle fluctuation and, in some instances, could result in the engine stalling while driving. In order to keep this from occurring, we will replace the air intake duct with an updated part and the air duct clamps--------"
Haven't taken mine in yet, but plan to soon.
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Re: [turbonator] by ferraritech
Aug 26, 2009 (12:14 pm)
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Replying to: turbonator (Aug 26, 2009 6:00 am)

The recall letter is ancient. The car was at Nissan before I decided to deal with it myself. They did this recall per my request. The car would not re-start and stay running in the exit drive of the dealership.
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Re: [ferraritech] by turbonator
Aug 26, 2009 (3:33 pm)
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Replying to: ferraritech (Aug 26, 2009 12:14 pm)

Well, I'm new here (I saw the recall post earlier today). But it seems to have helped my problem------went out later and car started and idled ok. Never had a problem with it running, just failure to continue to idle after hot restart.
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Re: [turbonator] by ferraritech
Aug 27, 2009 (5:13 am)
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Replying to: turbonator (Aug 26, 2009 3:33 pm)

In your case that may have been the problem, just not ours. Keep us posted on the check engine light after a few days of driving.
 
Glad your problem was addressed and fixed. Sometimes they bat a thousand.

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