Last post on Oct 21, 2009 at 11:51 PM
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Hyundai Genesis Coupe, Infiniti G37, Car Comparisons, Coupe
2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 vs. 2009 Infiniti G37 Coupe - Let's not mess around; the price of entry for both of these machines is considerable. (more)
#104 of 123 Re: Compared and Bought [myblackg37s77]
Jun 09, 2009 (7:44 am)
Well stated. A Hyundai does not equal an Infiniti...Rest assured that the savings on the Hyundai will not be worth its quick depreciation...The G37 is well established, and compares quite well to the BMW 3 series, the golden child in its class.
#105 of 123 Re: Compared and Bought [reyz]
Jun 09, 2009 (10:32 am)
I too own a 2007 G35X sedan. Can't make the comparison to Genesis, not having driven them, but reyz comment about depreciation I think would generally apply to Hyundais b/c these vehicles are purchased vs. primarily Lexus, Infiniits and BMW leases. I certainly can't speak for the entire country as a whole, but in the NY metro region, many, if not all, higher -end cars are leased by a wide margin. Long term 10 year warranty notwithstanding, only few people would "buy' a $40-50k + car with very expensive repairs & maintenance expenses facing you in 36-39 months [average lease terms]. These are not Classic Cars, and if you factor in a 5 year car loan with a "house" downpayment, your looking at major monthly payments for 5 years. Technology and designs will be better, and warranties will be up. The cycle starts again. You're never free of payments, in general, so why Buy??
#106 of 123 Re: Compared and Bought [myblackg37s77]
Jun 09, 2009 (1:53 pm)
Good for you. You bought something that's only a bit faster than the Genesis Coupe for an extra $7000.00 maybe? WOW
#107 of 123 Re: Compared and Bought [LASHAWN]
Jun 09, 2009 (1:59 pm)
There are people who believe they got $7,000 more car for their money. Stated another way, they paid more and got more car. Of course I realize your value system might not be the same as theirs. :shades
#108 of 123 Re: Compared and Bought [kdshapiro]
Jun 10, 2009 (12:50 pm)
I'm sorry, but they didn't get that much more car. The performance of these two cars are almost, almost mind you, close. A few tenths of a second here and there in my mind doesn't justify the extra dough. I mean can you really notice the difference when it's only one tenth or two tenths of a second to 60mph? But we live in a world were perception is everything and most people percieve that the G37 and BMW are the best and no one can touch them. Right or wrong?
#109 of 123 Re: Compared and Bought [LASHAWN]
Jun 11, 2009 (5:30 am)
I did not buy my car for the speed. I am not a street racer. In 3 years when the pain on the Hyundai is oxidzed, the interior is falling apart and you have to use that nice 10 year warrenty, I will be trading in my nice clean g37 that probably never had to have warrenty work done on it, that I never had to pay for a car wash or oil change beacuse of the amazing red carpet service the Infiniti dealer provides, maybe we can revisit the conversation.
Again, I will not support copy cat artistry in any form. It is the same reason I don't like sketcher shoes, imitation cologne, and crappy car companies that cant think outside the box for themselves!
#110 of 123 Re: Compared and Bought [myblackg37s77]
Jun 11, 2009 (6:16 am)
You might want to check your facts -- hyundai has one of the best reliability records around. As for the comments about paint oxidizing, etc: evidence please. You're welcome to your personal prejudices but I'm not convinced they match up with the facts.
Having said that I'm no big fan of copycat cars either. And it's certainly the biggest complaint you could legitimately level against Hyundai: they haven't exactly been trend setters. Even when they've done things well -- and lately they have -- it's usually as safe "the same as everyone else but cheaper" models that get the job done at a great price but don't threaten anyone's world view.
But that's all the more reason to give them credit for the frankly brave steps they're now taking. Genesis Coupe a prime example; rumoured entry into Formula 1 another. I'm glad you're happy with your choice and the G37 looks like a damned fine car which I wouldn't dream of knocking. But your exaggerated attacks on Hyundai, who if anything are the underdogs in your comparison, just sound like a mixture of outdated prejudice and self-justification after the fact, from over here.
#111 of 123 Re: Compared and Bought [trash]
Jun 11, 2009 (12:44 pm)
I have to agree with trash, I would have made the same choice to get the G37 but my take on myblackg37s77 is he/she enjoyed the car but couldnt get him/herself to buy it cos its a Hyundai. I stand to be corrected but as trash said
"just sounds like a mixture of outdated prejudice and self-justification after the fact, from over here. "
#112 of 123 Re: Compared and Bought [sjaieve]
Jun 11, 2009 (6:44 pm)
I am a he.....
I can respect everyone's opinions but just ask for the same respect back. Is name part of my decision, yes. I have financed everyone of my cars through NMAC(NISSAN FINANCE). Trading is much easier when you are staying within that family. Secondly, to get the options I wanted, which were not available on the Genesis left me ultimately deciding between the 370z and the G37. The 370 was listed at 42K and the G I bought was listed at 45K. Much higher price point than the hyundai either way i went. I loved the two Z's i owned, but it was time for something a little more refined, which I ultimately found in the G over the genesis.
As far as Hyundai's paint jobs and overall appearance holding u, i cannot remember a time when I looked at one driving down the road and thought wow... that is a great looking car.. and I have 2 friends that have newer hyundai and they neither one have mechanical issues but have problems with knobs falling off, paint oxidizing and cosmetic things falling off. I wouldn't want to risk it.....
#113 of 123 Re: Compared and Bought [myblackg37s77]
Jun 12, 2009 (4:42 am)
have problems with knobs falling off, paint oxidizing and cosmetic things falling off.
I am not sure why they would have those problems, but I have owned 5 different Hyundais (99 Accent, 04 Sonata, 05 Tucson, 09 Sonata, 08 Santa Fe) over the last decade and can honestly say that they have not seen any of the issues you attribute to them. Thanks to regular maintenance, washing and waxing, etc, the paint had the same shine and finish as day one on all (except for the Accent my son decided to wreck!) and mechanically they were all sound and reliable with little to no warranty work required. Heck, I broke the cargo tray on my Tucson and my dealer replaced that for me under warranty! Imagine that!
I wouldn't want to risk it.....
Life is all about risk and reward. Sometimes you just need to take that leap of faith. You might just be pleasantly surprised.