Last post on Apr 13, 2013 at 6:29 AM
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Lexus ES 300, Infiniti G37, Lexus ES 350, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#11 of 17 Re: ES 350 vs. Infiniti G37 Journey Sedan [montreid8888]
Sep 27, 2009 (6:34 pm)
I agree g37 is much sportier to drive and has a firmer ride. However, if you research recent g35's (like 2005-07), there are hundreds of complaints including break pads going bad around 10-17k, uncomfortable leather seats, and not mention the higher drop in resale value
#12 of 17 ES350 least favorite Lexus
Oct 15, 2009 (5:42 pm)
Just wanted to mention something, piggybacking on the comment earlier of some inaccuracies in this thread. First, all cars depreciate like crazy. Unless you have the time and patience to sell private party, any trade-in allowance from a dealership is going to be low ball, regardless of Vehicle make.
And yes, some of my trade ins have been vehicles that were touted as "high resale", including 3 Lexus. 1 2005 GS, 1 2006 GS AWD, and most recently a 2007 ES350. All cars are a depreciating asset, and you will lose money on them at some point, regardless of the make.
The one other "inaccuracy" to mention is the whole size thing. Yes, the ES350 has more cargo capacity, but other than that, it has pretty similar stats to the G. Go online and check the stats out. You'll find that the G actually has more headroom front and rear. So overall, very similar. And for those of you who haven't owned or ridden in the ES, give it a shot in the back seat. It is not a super roomy vehicle. It's size is OK, but again it's not an LS or anything, just like the G isn't an M in size.
Overall, of the 3 Lexus I've owned, the ES350 was my least favorite. It was competent in some respects. And definitely not bad. I'll give it that. And gas mileage is off the charts good for a heavy 4 door sedan with a little zip. But hated the FWD. Interior good, but not without a few design faults...i.e., that is the most stupid design for the center console armrest, to gain access. And with less than 36k miles, more dashboard squeaks than I would have guessed. Overall, decent ride, but not great.
#13 of 17 Re: ES350 least favorite Lexus [thomas61]
Oct 15, 2009 (9:43 pm)
some cars dont depreciate, like exclusive, special edition cars.
Oct 16, 2009 (10:42 am)
Totally correct, but we aren't really talking about exclusive, special edition cars here...the context of the thread, and my response, dealt with a Toyota and a Nissan product. Not really what you'd find in a Dupont Registry or anything. For "most" production cars out there, they're all a losing propostion money-wise, so my comment was just to say there's not much difference in a Lex vs Infiniti. Perception wise, to the Lex owner, maybe....but when he or she goes to actually trade one in, like I have 3 times now, you get hosed, just like on any other trade-in.
#15 of 17 Re: touche [thomas61]
Oct 19, 2009 (10:17 am)
Resale value has a direct connection to what type of discount has to be given in order to sell the vehicle. If you bought a vehicle with a $5 or $6k discount you can bet it will depreciate that much more when you drive it off the lot. The economy is having a direct effect on resale. For instance, If you can buy a new G37 for $5k off MSRP(say 32500) and a used 2008 G35 is $30k. Why wouldnt you spend another $2500 to get the 2009 with the added hsp. If the economy improves, dealers will offer less incentives to move product. Less incentives on the new cars means better resale (higher prices) on used. How do you win?
#16 of 17 2013 Lexus ES350 and Infiniti G37 Journey
Apr 08, 2013 (8:51 pm)
So, I guess discussion on this happened back in 2009. How do things look like now? I have done the test drive for Lexus, but not for Infiniti yet. Has anyone compared the 2013 models? Any feedback?
Also, what about BMW 335?
#17 of 17 Re: 2013 Lexus ES350 and Infiniti G37 Journey [ilexusbuyer]
Apr 13, 2013 (6:29 am)
I actually bought the ES350 really like the look regret it now, I should of continue with Infinity. The infinity felt more sporty and was fun to drive, the ES 350 handling is no were close to what my infinity felt like. When on the freeway the wind noise from the side window is bad. I upgraded to the Mark levinson system it is the worst if you like music with bass, volume is suppose to be up to 63 but if you play certain songs like starting from the bottom by Drake the destrotion is so bad you cannot put the volume over 38, my infiniti sound system was 100 Times better. Do you believe the 2013 ES 350 does't even have sunglass holder, and wait it gets better if you upgrade to the GPS they remove the compass on the rearview mirror.lLexus cheaper out on a lot of things,you do not realize till you buy it. Checkout the below link on all the complaints about the Mark Levinson system. What I know now I would never buy a Lexus, I miss my infinity. Infiniti you get you monies worth more than a Lexus trust me. I am starting to feel I have a Toyota Avalon with an L on the front. If you are interested in a BMW Lexus does not come close, that is why Lexus are still trying to catch up, look at the 2014 IS Aiming at BMW. I had a BMW M3 7 Years ago and it was a great car handling was amazing.