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#88 of 1016 Re: Driving the CVT vs. 6-speed manual [ateixeira] by rsholland Jul 01, 2009 (6:25 pm)
Replying to: ateixeira (Jul 01, 2009 11:10 am) My understanding is the Subaru CVT is an in-house design. However, the metal chain belt is supplied by the same company that makes the Audi CVT, so I've been told.   Bob Replies to this message: saedave (Jul 02, 2009 7:01 am) rsholland (Jul 02, 2009 7:27 am)
#89 of 1016 Re: Driving the CVT vs. 6-speed manual [rsholland] by saedave Jul 02, 2009 (7:01 am)
Replying to: rsholland (Jul 01, 2009 6:25 pm) My understanding is the Subaru CVT is an in-house design. However, the metal chain belt is supplied by the same company that makes the Audi CVT, so I've been told.   I would presume that the pulley assembly would also come from the supplier since the combination is an engineered unit that has been tested for durability. An untested combination would be quite a gamble.   Only time will tell whether the CVT will like the treatment it gets from Subaru owners who drive in all kinds of weather and bad conditions. The low production volume of Audi CVT models may not be a perfect predictor. Replies to this message: rsholland (Jul 02, 2009 7:27 am)
#90 of 1016 Re: Driving the CVT vs. 6-speed manual [saedave] by rsholland Jul 02, 2009 (7:27 am)
Replying to: saedave (Jul 02, 2009 7:01 am) Subaru is well aware that their owners keep their cars longer than the average car owner, so I would assume that was taken into consideration when engineering this unit. They certainly don't want to risk losing customers by offering a so-so or unreliable CVT.   Bob
#91 of 1016 Re: Driving the CVT vs. 6-speed manual [seabrook7039] by fendertweed Jul 02, 2009 (7:46 am)
Replying to: seabrook7039 (Jul 01, 2009 9:46 am) just based on previous experience, I don't want to buy new technology and the CVT is new ... once it establishes a track record for longevity I might go for it but that will take several years of real-world feedback.   I prefer an auto due to a bad knee but if I go for a '10 Outback it'll likely be the 6-speed manual. Replies to this message: rsholland (Jul 02, 2009 7:53 am) colloquor (Jul 03, 2009 5:04 am) rsholland (Jul 03, 2009 6:27 am) colloquor (Jul 03, 2009 9:57 am) 204meca (Jul 03, 2009 12:55 pm) gmginsfo (Jul 09, 2009 11:46 am) and 1 more...
#92 of 1016 Re: Driving the CVT vs. 6-speed manual [fendertweed] by rsholland Jul 02, 2009 (7:53 am)
Replying to: fendertweed (Jul 02, 2009 7:46 am) The H6 still uses the (proven) 5EAT. The CVT, right now, is only offered on the H4 models.   Bob
#93 of 1016 Subaru did it again by scottl Jul 02, 2009 (9:35 am)
I saw a'10 Outback at a dealer over the weekend. What an abomination. It was parked next to a Tribeca, and it looked almost identical.   Subaru has made a habit of making each succeeding generation of a model fatter and more bizarre looking. The dealer told me he thought they had priced themselves out of their traditional market now, and had to add useless bling to compete with all the other cars with useless bling.   It looks to me like Suzuki is slipping into the rugged, reliable and economical slot formerly held by Subaru. Here's hoping they can come up with a mid-sized AWD to complement the SX4, which is selling very well here in Colorado.   I'm looking for a great deal on an '09. If I can't find one, I won't be buying a new Subaru any time soon. Replies to this message: rsholland (Jul 02, 2009 9:42 am) hailalmamater (Jul 02, 2009 10:07 am) saedave (Jul 02, 2009 2:25 pm)
#94 of 1016 Re: Subaru did it again [scottl] by rsholland Jul 02, 2009 (9:42 am)
Replying to: scottl (Jul 02, 2009 9:35 am) Looks are purely subjective. The new 2010 Outback is clearly a better car where it counts.   Bob
#95 of 1016 Re: Subaru did it again [scottl] by hailalmamater Jul 02, 2009 (10:07 am)
Replying to: scottl (Jul 02, 2009 9:35 am) I was under the impression that the cars were actually cheaper across the board than their predecessors. At least the sedans seem to be. Based on what I've seen they are pretty competitive with Toyo/Honda/Nissan offerings, but have AWD. The size increase has helped greatly with the interior room, which, as a tall person, eliminated Subaru for consideration with the earlier model. I looked at the 2.5 Limited sedan and thought it was pretty nice for $24,500. Only issue I had was the hard plastic on the top of the dash - Subaru should have gone soft touch on this part.
#96 of 1016 Re: Subaru did it again [scottl] by saedave Jul 02, 2009 (2:25 pm)
Replying to: scottl (Jul 02, 2009 9:35 am) I'm looking for a great deal on an '09. If I can't find one, I won't be buying a new Subaru any time soon   Be sure to look at the Forester too. It has better back seat room than the 2009 Outback! And the styling is to my eye more pleasant.
#97 of 1016 nice car by freeney Jul 02, 2009 (4:31 pm)
Just drove the 2010 Legacy and came away impressed. CVT is smooth and consistent. The cabin is quieter than prior Legacy models (though no mid-size car I've driven compares with the new, coffin-silent Malibu). The Legacy ride is reasonably firm but not harsh. The ergonomics suited my 6-foot frame to the extent it isn't hard to imagine driving a long distance and getting out feeling fresh. Shorter people will crane their necks to see out the back, though. Ingress and egress is probably best-in-class.

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