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That answers one question. by beachfish2
Jun 29, 2009 (1:32 pm)
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"Legacy 3.6R 5AT 18 mpg city / 21 mpg combined / 25 mpg hwy"
 
I can live with 25, thanks.
 
I still need to sit in one, but I think I'll see if I can get an Outback with every option. I wouldn't be in a hurry, but my father is 87 and wants me to get a new car. I'm driving his '06 Avalon since he can't drive - and therefore he won't be buying a car. He has offered a bribe of half the cost of all the options - but I have to get the NAV whether I want it or not. He likes his gizmos - leftovers from his WWII flying days I guess.
 
I've been looking at Highlanders and RX10s, but optioned out the stickers are running $39k to $48k and they are in short supply. He liked these two models, but he also liked the looks of the new Outback pics the other day.
 
As usual you folks are up to date on the news. Thanks.
 
John... formerly known as beachfish and former owner of an '86 GL dual-range trans wagon and an '02 Forester S.
 
P.S. - I drove a Venza V6. Terrible ride, felt like an old pickup truck with new high-load shocks on it. Put my checkbook back in my pocket, put my dad back in the Avalon and went to eat lunch. What a disappointment.
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Re: That answers one question. [beachfish2] by ateixeira
Jun 30, 2009 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: beachfish2 (Jun 29, 2009 1:32 pm)

I guess I'm not surprised.
 
Toyota does isolation well, but the idea of putting gigantic 20" wheels on a Camry wagon and trying to tune it to be sporting was bound to produce bad results.
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Driving the CVT vs. 6-speed manual by seabrook7039
Jul 01, 2009 (8:46 am)
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Having always prefered and driven manuals all my life I was set on picking up a 2010 manual Outback to replace our 2000 manual Outback. But the buzz over the new CVT has raised my curiosity. Has anyone who - like me - is disposed to buying manuals considering the CVT? Any driving CVT experiences to report? Thanks!
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Re: Driving the CVT vs. 6-speed manual [seabrook7039] by ateixeira
Jul 01, 2009 (10:10 am)
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Replying to: seabrook7039 (Jul 01, 2009 8:46 am)

I'm curious the same way you are, in fact I'll probably sample both when I finally test drive a 2010.
 
I'm hopeful, because I like the way the Altima with a CVT drives, and I believe Subaru uses the same supplier.
 
At the same time, I didn't like the Mitsubishi Outlander with its CVT - very elastic feeling, sort of disconnected. It's hard to explain, I guess.
 
I'd consider one if it drove like the Nissan, but not if it drove like the Mitsu.
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Re: Driving the CVT vs. 6-speed manual [ateixeira] by rsholland
Jul 01, 2009 (5:25 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jul 01, 2009 10:10 am)

My understanding is the Subaru CVT is an in-house design. However, the metal chain belt is supplied by the same company that makes the Audi CVT, so I've been told.
 
Bob
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Re: Driving the CVT vs. 6-speed manual [rsholland] by saedave
Jul 02, 2009 (6:01 am)
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Replying to: rsholland (Jul 01, 2009 5:25 pm)

My understanding is the Subaru CVT is an in-house design. However, the metal chain belt is supplied by the same company that makes the Audi CVT, so I've been told.
 
I would presume that the pulley assembly would also come from the supplier since the combination is an engineered unit that has been tested for durability. An untested combination would be quite a gamble.
 
Only time will tell whether the CVT will like the treatment it gets from Subaru owners who drive in all kinds of weather and bad conditions. The low production volume of Audi CVT models may not be a perfect predictor.
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Re: Driving the CVT vs. 6-speed manual [saedave] by rsholland
Jul 02, 2009 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: saedave (Jul 02, 2009 6:01 am)

Subaru is well aware that their owners keep their cars longer than the average car owner, so I would assume that was taken into consideration when engineering this unit. They certainly don't want to risk losing customers by offering a so-so or unreliable CVT.
 
Bob
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Re: Driving the CVT vs. 6-speed manual [seabrook7039] by fendertweed
Jul 02, 2009 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: seabrook7039 (Jul 01, 2009 8:46 am)

just based on previous experience, I don't want to buy new technology and the CVT is new ... once it establishes a track record for longevity I might go for it but that will take several years of real-world feedback.
 
I prefer an auto due to a bad knee but if I go for a '10 Outback it'll likely be the 6-speed manual.
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Re: Driving the CVT vs. 6-speed manual [fendertweed] by rsholland
Jul 02, 2009 (6:53 am)
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Replying to: fendertweed (Jul 02, 2009 6:46 am)

The H6 still uses the (proven) 5EAT. The CVT, right now, is only offered on the H4 models.
 
Bob
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Subaru did it again by scottl
Jul 02, 2009 (8:35 am)
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I saw a'10 Outback at a dealer over the weekend. What an abomination. It was parked next to a Tribeca, and it looked almost identical.
 
Subaru has made a habit of making each succeeding generation of a model fatter and more bizarre looking. The dealer told me he thought they had priced themselves out of their traditional market now, and had to add useless bling to compete with all the other cars with useless bling.
 
It looks to me like Suzuki is slipping into the rugged, reliable and economical slot formerly held by Subaru. Here's hoping they can come up with a mid-sized AWD to complement the SX4, which is selling very well here in Colorado.
 
I'm looking for a great deal on an '09. If I can't find one, I won't be buying a new Subaru any time soon.

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